Players with aim assist on keyboard and mouse

In the first place, I think the problem of being able to add aim assist to a keyboard and mouse using such a ridiculous external tool that violates the terms of service would automatically disappear if aim assist itself, which has now become a system that only pampers game pad players, were to be eliminated.

The developers seem to have introduced a fairly powerful aim assist feature because "aiming with a game pad is difficult," but aiming is difficult whether you're playing with a game pad or a keyboard and mouse, and both are things that require proper practice.

It would clearly be the wrong choice to give it an advantage over game pads, making it easier to aim, simply because it is difficult.

Whenever I say this, there are always some game pad players who say, "You can get precise character control if you use a keyboard and mouse!" However, it is important to realize that precise character control does not allow you to attack the enemy, and since aiming is the action that is most directly related to defeating the enemy, they should never be discussed in the same breath.

It's about time to get rid of this "aim assist" system, which solely relies on the game pad.

Whether you use a game pad or a keyboard and mouse, you should be able to aim by yourself.

It's about time to get rid of this "comfortable system'' called aim assist, which when using a game pad, is not just a mechanical assistance but almost makes the machine do the aiming for you, and allow you to play based on your own ability alone.

A gamepad is not a keyboard and mouse, it's a different device. Aim assist on gamepad is not an advantage, but a necessity. You can't shoot on a gamepad without aim asist like you can on a keyboard with a mouse, because sticks have drift and deadzones. Imagine having areas in the center and edges of your mouse pad where the sensor won't work. 
I don't understand why the issue of cheating devices is not being addressed. In Rust for example players with cheating mice are banned, this game also uses Easy antichit, as well as apex.
And why these devices are so strong - they have macros for shooting. Thanks to this, such players shoot at a point, and they also have an aim assist, it's almost like an aimbot. 

Xim is cheat app’s name. Somebody talk for this in one turkish dc group for apex legends. A lot of people use cheat and talk for this. Pls will do good anticheat… 

Additionally, they use equipment that makes the keyboard and mouse look like a controller. I don't think there's anything that can prevent this.

In the discord channel set up by Turks for the Apex community, cheaters openly say that everyone on diamond is cheating and that the one with the best cheat wins. I didn't bother and read all the posts. This situation has become very disgraceful. It's annoying. The guy is trying to take a headshot from behind the wall because of the cheat. The program should detect these. It's like a joke

They just gotta divide controller / mkb lobies so when you are in mkb loby controller option should gray out and the aim assist should drop off , its just terrible. And game can't detect mkb hacking with aim assist coz they are manipulating the pc trough a hardware , its in several other games too , like in mmo's there are devices which is doing the macro , since its not trough software the anti cheat is thinkin that you are actually playin.  So here Apex should just go to its roots , like how it was in day 1 , no controller input in the freaking pc lobbies , no one cares about cross platform. Console players are getting crushed in PC lobbies mostly so they don't even attend. Just shut the controller option on PC , if people wana play with controllers they can stick to good old ps, xbox or controller only lobbies.

Splitting the lobby into controllers and MNK will not solve the problem with XIM cheaters. You just want other people to suffer from them instead of you. What a low moral fiber you have.
You are wrong that detection of a cheating device is not possible. In RUST game some mouse models are forbidden, if a player with such a mouse connects to the game he gets an automatic ban. Antichit can detect such players, it's just that Apex developers ignore this problem.

No, aim assist is not a required feature. As I've said many times before, aiming is something you should do on your own, no matter what device you're using. Gamepad dead zones can be managed with settings, and such characteristics are also something that can be compensated for with practice. Even so, saying things like "gamepads are difficult" is nothing more than self-indulgence and an excuse for your own lack of practice and skill, and is nothing more than an excuse for not wanting to give up the privilege of being able to easily aim at enemies and kill them without much practice, almost like cheating.

In the first place, it is impossible to make the device disparity completely fair when players with different devices can enter the same match, but with aim assist, the aim, which is the biggest factor that determines victory or defeat in the game, is corrected by the power of the machine, which is like doping in sports, or using a tool that allows you to perform beyond your ability.

In OW2, there is no aim assist on the gamepad, and it seems that you have to aim and win by your own skill alone, but that's how all FPS games should be.
In the first place, there are high-end gamepads that solve the drift and dead zone problems of gamepad sticks, so if you want to solve the drift and dead zone problems, just buy one of these high-end gamepads.
Even with keyboards and mice, you buy a high-end gaming mouse that makes it easier for you to aim and has good responsiveness to give you an advantage in-game, so it's wrong to spoil only gamepad users by giving them these features.

So, to begin with, aim assist should be completely eliminated.
Besides, it should be obvious that, on the one hand, it takes countless hours of practicing with a keyboard and mouse to finally be able to fight properly and reach a high rank, but on the other hand, if you use a gamepad you can fight reasonably well in a few hours and even be able to fight reasonably well with experienced players at higher ranks if it's just about aiming; no matter how you look at it, this situation is strange for an FPS, but with all the strange and negative situations that aim assist has created, we still can't be naive and say that aim assist is absolutely necessary, right?

When I used to play Apex with a gamepad, I was able to fight in the game really easily and quickly, and I could easily shoot even at Master Rank, but once I started using a keyboard and mouse, I couldn't fight as easily as I did with a gamepad, and I needed more precise control to shoot enemies, and it took me much longer to be able to shoot properly with experienced players than it did when I was using a gamepad.

The reason I say aim assist should be removed from gamepads is because, having experienced both devices, I feel that the gamepad is clearly given overwhelming preferential treatment due to the power of the machine, which makes the effort and practice of players who use a keyboard and mouse seem almost meaningless.

The answer to this debate is that players who play only with a gamepad and take advantage of aim assist, which is almost like a cheat tool and allows them to easily defeat enemies, are the ones who argue that "aim assist is absolutely necessary," while players who have experience playing with both a gamepad and keyboard and mouse, or who play only with a keyboard and mouse, are the ones who say "aim assist should be completely eliminated or made almost nonexistent."

If the loss of aim assist makes it difficult to hit your target or to shoot, it's not due to a dead zone or drift on the gamepad, but simply due to the player's lack of skill and practice.

"no controller input in the freaking pc lobbies , no one cares about cross platform."

Am I reading this right? Console should not be allowed in PC lobbies, but NO ONE CARES IF A PC PLAYER IS IN A CONSOLE LOBBY? Please correct me if I'm misunderstood what you were trying to say there.