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New Traveler

4 years ago

Ranked Arena Matchmaking and MMR

TL;DR The placement match system is broken misplaced players get to hard intensity games in very low rank solo ranked players get matched with the duo and put against the premade trio carrying g...

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papahandsoap

4 years ago

Bro I promise this is the worst of the worst matchmaking in the GAME. I get placed in G3, (consistent diamond player lvl 500). Sure, it's arenas maybe I'm not as good... Let's assume that's the baseline. I consistently get matched with < level 30, < 100 kills on their character players that have no clue what's up from down. My games are rarely enjoyable, and the fights are never even. About 1 in 5 games my team clean wipes since I somehow match up with two serious gunners. The other 4 of the 5 games I'm on the receiving end - I even got matched against a FULL streaming 3 stack of reputable players (hi Austerberryyy, mad chill and good vibes) and DIDN'T EVEN GET A THIRD.

Arenas has a TON of potential. It is also the Apex beta test for short-format, non BR game types. Let's set aside the "console vs pc aim" debacle for now, the matchmaking alone is so atrocious I can't last more than 5 games before I get fed up of the same pattern of games.

On top of matchmaking, the RP system here is ridiculous. I get no points for a win when I have 2, 3, 4 thousand damage and the kills to match all game long... Means nothing if we don't win though? This is exactly why the rank system in games like overwatch got a ton of negative feedback, and games with terrible rank systems eventually die off. I'm not the biggest diehard fan of the Apex BR rank system, but at the bare minimum it rewards players for sweating and getting kills.

pandareno1999

Hero+

4 years ago

@papahandsoap

I don't think it's fair to ascribe Overwatch's decline to their ranked system. Yes, there are and have been a million OW players who moan about it. But no game is going to survive a two year content drought without losing players. I wasn't around when OW introduced their ranked system, so I can't compare them. But ranked arenas right now seems really bad, I can't disagree. I don't play arena at all, ranked or pubs, because I don't like it. Maybe I'll give it a go again if they ever get the matchmaking decent.

papahandsoap
4 years ago
@pandareno1999 @pandareno1999 I would not characterize their downfall solely to their rank system, just meant to draw a parallel between OW ranked and Arenas ranked tbh. There's no clear-to-the-player system of how the AP works, and the ranks of your teammates/enemies don't even show up. I was placed in gold (Diamond BR player but sure, I don't mind grinding up in Arena) and I play against Diamond/Master sometimes and Bronze/Silver the other times. There is zero point to the ranks or the rank system atm and they should have held back on releasing a rank queue if it was clearly not ready or comparable in quality to their existing BR rank system.

Overwatch had a lot more wrong with it (content droughts, focusing the game solely on comp play, making it less "accessible and fun" for casuals with role locks in unranked and attempts to control the post-Brigitte metas) than just the ranked system.