I left for two seasons and now I'm back playing and ranked is somehow far worse than before. The kp makes no sense, only getting one point per kill at the beginning makes no sense. Before I felt like platinum actually matched my skill now I can't barely get any points in plat and gold is extremely easy. It's so punishing to play by myself cause everyone wants to hott drop then if we get 6 kills and die it's still -40. I do like that it's unlimited kp now that makes a lot of sense(gets people to the correct rank faster). The demotion protection system makes no sense. I also think the amount of smurfing is really out of hand. I'm constantly being killed by level 40's with a 4k and 20 bomb badge. Idk maybe I'm alone with this but I really hope a ranked rework is coming because I love grinding for something but this system right now only feels punishing. For example if I do bad 5 games I'm down 200+ rp then I get second with 5 kp and get like 100rp or something like that. this problem sounds like I'm just crying but to me it seems like something is wrong if one rank is really easy then I'm hard stuck. That's just my opinion. Thanks

@Midnight9746 rank is kinda stupid... any MMR player can be in your lobby. Predators can publicly do bronze to master challenges and respawn doesnt do a thing for that to protect us all... but if pros ask for something they will move mountains.

@1unown1You're right, they screwed the ranked system up big time. There's a lot of people who are unhappy with it. It's even effected pubs because a lot of the people who don't like the new system have trickled into the pub sessions.

@XxColdFangxX Yep and oddly I predicted all of this before they even launch it. It made no sense it was their biggest mistake yet and it was made to satisfy pros idea of a real rank system and they even helped build it directly with the devs. I have played like 50 times less than I used to since then. Not fun.

@Palette24carats I predicted the same too..and I'm not even that experienced with apex.

@1unown1 Matchmaking is SO broken, its just allowing low leveled players in higher ranked matches. Pathfinder here has to be on the same team as both Seer and Bangalore or at least one of them, as I don't think normally they would end up in a match like this, (by that, I mean they would most likely get two silvers or bronzes, rather than be in gold lobbies as often).Both Seer and Bangalore were Rookie IV last season, and are silver and gold this season, while they have very little damage and kills, with the Pathfinder over there having more kills and damage. You seem to get more points the more "team participation" you have, so both Seer and Bangalore are basically farming points from letting Pathfinder mow through anyone they come across. Pathfinder was even letting them both take shots before he killed each member of my squad, so that it would "count" as team participation.I wasn't having much luck this match, and my team wasn't able to down anyone or get a kill, in fact this team was the first squad we came across. Yet, despite making it to top 10 and putting up a good fight, neither me nor my teammates got any points. The old rank system rewarded us for our efforts, this rank system just spits in our faces and gives us the same exact matchmaking the next game, if not a worse one. How is any of this playable?

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XxColdFangxX
3 years ago
@1unown1
You're right, they screwed the ranked system up big time. There's a lot of people who are unhappy with it. It's even effected pubs because a lot of the people who don't like the new system have trickled into the pub sessions.
Palette24carats
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@XxColdFangxX Yep and oddly I predicted all of this before they even launch it. It made no sense it was their biggest mistake yet and it was made to satisfy pros idea of a real rank system and they even helped build it directly with the devs. I have played like 50 times less than I used to since then. Not fun.
XxColdFangxX
3 years ago
@Palette24carats I predicted the same too..and I'm not even that experienced with apex.
Midnight9746
Hero+
3 years ago
@1unown1 Matchmaking is SO broken, its just allowing low leveled players in higher ranked matches. Pathfinder here has to be on the same team as both Seer and Bangalore or at least one of them, as I don't think normally they would end up in a match like this, (by that, I mean they would most likely get two silvers or bronzes, rather than be in gold lobbies as often).
Both Seer and Bangalore were Rookie IV last season, and are silver and gold this season, while they have very little damage and kills, with the Pathfinder over there having more kills and damage. You seem to get more points the more "team participation" you have, so both Seer and Bangalore are basically farming points from letting Pathfinder mow through anyone they come across. Pathfinder was even letting them both take shots before he killed each member of my squad, so that it would "count" as team participation.
I wasn't having much luck this match, and my team wasn't able to down anyone or get a kill, in fact this team was the first squad we came across. Yet, despite making it to top 10 and putting up a good fight, neither me nor my teammates got any points. The old rank system rewarded us for our efforts, this rank system just spits in our faces and gives us the same exact matchmaking the next game, if not a worse one. How is any of this playable?
Palette24carats
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Midnight9746 rank is kinda stupid... any MMR player can be in your lobby. Predators can publicly do bronze to master challenges and respawn doesnt do a thing for that to protect us all... but if pros ask for something they will move mountains.
Midnight9746
Hero+
3 years ago
@Palette24carats Yeah, exactly. I'm seeing a bunch of players who have either no "last season" ranked stamp, or it says "Rookie IV". The game really needs to stop letting people drop so low in the ranks, and needs to actually balance and work better at stopping cheaters and smurphs.
Edited:
Vantage died when I died, so I was only able to spectate Ash. Ash was playing like a cheating bot. Their aim snapped to targets when she aimed down sights, and was beaming enemy players, as she was using anti-recoiling when firing the hemlok, and used the single fire mode, which sounded like it was an R-99.
A tell tale sign of a cheater, is that they focus more on shooting and where they're positioned, (aka keeping a line of sight on targets unless they're using the cheat where bullets curve corners slightly), and less on healing and keeping healed up. Sometimes a cheater won't even heal and would squad wipe teams with less than 5 hp left. This Ash was doing just that, but their aimbotting only was active while she was aiming down sights. When they went to shield up, a Horizon dropped down next to them to also shield up, and then Ash pulled out the Hemlok and beamed Horizon, but Ash ended up dying due to not being fully healed up, and only having level 2 evo vs Horizon's full level 3 evo. Both Ash and Vantage were in the same club, so I'm going to assume Vantage was using cheats as well.
Both players were Rookie IV last season. This seems to be a common trend. Players just drop into rookie, to what appears to be used to abuse matchmaking, not quite sure though.
Regardless of what they're doing, this guy is basically smurphing into lower lobbies while his Bloodhound teammate is a flat out smurph. Neither seemed to be cheating.
chuckmynorris
New Hotshot
3 years ago
The ranked system is absolutely horrible atm. You need to be top 5 with like 6KP to get anywhere. That's not really a problem until you reach diamond. In Plat lobbies it's fine and not a problem but when you hit diamond IV, straight away your in predator lobbies. And not just one team with a predator but full three stack preds/pro players. Horrible experience and makes ranked unoplayable.
1unown1
3 years ago
@Midnight9746 Yea this is exactly what I run into then I do what I feel is decent or atleast worthy of not losing rp and I'll still lose 20rp
1unown1
3 years ago
@chuckmynorris Yea I don't understand what the point of having a rank is if they put you in matches with other ranks. I know they're trying to speed up queue times but each rank should really have its own lobbies
Palette24carats
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@1unown1 yeah because pros say BR is about the win. But you can't always win when you play against similarly skilled players it doesnt make sense! Even the 20th ALGS squad get paid real money even tough they were the least close to winning!!

Seems like devs were mislead to believe what pros keep shouting out loud ; "BR is about winning, make rank a real difficult serious grind go play pubs if you want fun".
But in reality they should go back to what it was: "Have real good fights with similarly skilled players, reward wining fights and reward wins even more to make it an even more satisfying game and endgoal."

There is nothing more fun than have a good fight with similarly skilled players and this is what rank should be about. Killing lower skilled players is not as much satisfying and doesnt help getting better and being killed by higher skilled players is very discouraging, doesnt help you get better because the skill gap is too big you just die too quickly to learn what to do and you don't even wanna play anymore if this happens too often.