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Without even saying if the new system is OVERALL better or worse than before, a few differences is very noticeable:
1) More teams/players survive until round 4 and 5. Even in bronze to gold matches, its not uncommon to see 10-15 teams remaining in the later stages of the match. This must be seen as something positive; people care more about actually trying to win the match.
2) Enemy teams are much more likely to play together than before. This must also be seen as something positive.
3) Hiding/jumping safe/avoiding fights is still a very effective strategy to effortlessly climb in ranks. This must be seen as something negative since this incentivise bad players, i.e players that are very unskilled in shooting, moving, fighting, to keep doing this because this is the only way they can gain LPs. And ofc, the further they climb with this strategy, the more will they also have to rely on this strategy. This is also something negative. Its not a healthy sign when some players will lose 10/10 fights against other players in their same lobby.
4) Because of 1,2 and 3 on this list, the game is even worse for solo Qers now. Random duos are even more likely to just leave you, often using you as bait to escape, and you have to stay and watch them run for their life with 0 dmg dealt as you wait for your banner timer to run out.
- Midnight97462 years agoHero+
The game seems to think I can beat pros like ItsTimmy, Faide, etc. based on how I'd see preds as the champion team pre-stacking, while my teammates play like bots. That alone already suggests a problem as I didn't have this many "bots" until around S16-S17.
Also, one of Apex's "rules" is "no smurfing" which they defined as "the act of stomping players of lower skills on a new account". If there's no problem with the matchmaking, then why are casual players being put in with the top 1%, and why are these players in my matches? (This player is a smurf, and yes this was in ranked):
What would be helpful is:
- Going back to the old matchmaking, completely trashing the idea of the "hidden MMR" since it only made things worse for everyone.
- Punish cheaters, bot accounts, smurfs, exploiters, and console players who use xim, strikepacks, etc.
- Require players to deal damage and get kills to even be able to earn points, or some other method that discourages ratting. Like, even Ash's rat is in the fight.
- Require players to actually move and play the game, temp banning players who do next to nothing since that's sabotaging the other two's match, (we have report options for "inactive during the match" and "abandoned the match", so why not implement an auto-detector? Overwatch already has this function).
- Hate to say it, but remove survival items, mainly the heat shield and evac towers from ranked. Players use heat shields to camp out of the ring. As for the evac tower, if you really want a competitive ranked system, there shouldn't be towers you can use whenever. Use the map or Valkyrie. As for the mobile respawn beacon, removing it or leaving it be wouldn't quite change much.
- Ranked level requirement should be raised to at least 100, 50 is too low. - Balladalidila2 years agoSeasoned Ace
Yes definitely harder. Ive been playing from rookie4 to about gold4 over 110 matches and my ranked KD and average dmg dealt is 1.5 and 1024 in this new system. In the old system, I would have gone from rookie4 to gold4 in like 50 matches with 6-7 KD. Surprisingly, I think the average dmg dealt is about the same as in the old system, probably due to a more mid range oriented meta.
But does harder means worse tho? A problem in the old system was that everyone could get to at least platinum. So even if I think the ranked system still need alot of work, I at least applaud the effort to change it. Like I said, more player in every lobby at least try to win the game now than before which I think is a sign that they are going in the right direction. I think they just have to find a healthy balance between the need to fight and get kills and survive long into the game to actually rank up. Now its too easy to just avoid fights to rank up
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