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Re: Aim assist is cheating. Remove aim assist.

@matzesingtyou clearly dont get the discussion, its not about cheats, its about the players being assisted by default ... why are you always circling back to the cheats ?
nothing to do with people using hacked mice/controllers whatsoever bcs that is illegal as is doping in every other sport. Cheating is a complete seperate topic, so please dont mix those 2 together.

Also pro players leaving their source of income bcs they are not willing to adapt to the new rules ? seems highly unlikely , a pros skill isnt solely defined on his ability to master the input device.
There is much more to it (eg. tactics), otherwise they would not be pro at all. i know a lot of exceptional aimers, way better than actual pro players. but they mostly lack other qualities needed to get pro.

 Verhulst for instance would be up to speed in Apex as Mnk in literally in no time, bcs his understanding of the game doesnt vanish by changing the controller type.
Yea he might need a bit of time to get warm with it, but that is what cuts the "men from the boys" or the pros from the casuals.

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  • matzesingt's avatar
    matzesingt
    3 years ago

    @r1ggedgameI will continue to mix them when you try to bring competitive integrity as an argument in a game where undetected cheating is possible 

  • r1ggedgame's avatar
    r1ggedgame
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @matzesingtyea and by that you show me that you dont understand the discussion at all.
    You seem not be able to differ between 3rd part tools and the ground rules that are set by the game itself, having one party given an assistance to make them able to compete. That breaks the integrity before a cheat app is even written for the game.

  • matzesingt's avatar
    matzesingt
    3 years ago
    @r1ggedgame Nah i do understand it, but i simply don’t use something that doesn’t exist in the first place as an argument
  • r1ggedgame's avatar
    r1ggedgame
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @matzesingtoh it would exist if they would have went with one set of controls from the beginning. thats why i say it breaks it ... and dont reason with 3rd party stuff. there is pretty much competitive integrity in CS:GO, Quake Champions ect. (every title that is played with one set of unassisted controls), despite people trying to use cheats over there too.

    Ever though of why there is no discussions about it in those titles ? 
    Its always the mixed environments, especially when you have to assist one.

    Make controllers fit the task mechanically and not by software helpers and the discussion is more or less over.
    The gyro approach seems to be quite promising.

    The Baseline should be : everything has to come from the player himself and not from an assisting piece of software, no matter if its builtin the game or installed as a 3rd party app

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