Re: bot lobbys

I don't really get your point, especially the "i don't want to play against people who are clearly better than me". You named some of the best  Apex players who can get 4k-20kills even in pred lobbys.

The secret to improve in apex legends is by facing stronger opponents. When we get killed, you have to understand that (except for few exceptions) it's mainly our fault. When you do so it's so important that you analize your mistakes and try your best to avoid them in the future. By facing stronger players you can ask yourself, what did i do wrong and what did they do right. 

You said that "i can't have it because of my trash teammates and god enemys". Every time i get a 4k-20kills is by playing solo. If you have god teammates, they will yoink all the kills and farm your damage instead. You shouldn't be relying on your team to improve your gameplay.

We also have to mention that Apex Legends skill level has been rising alot since the game has been released and consistency is key. The people that you watch on youtube getting 5k and so on play and have been playing for a very long time, since for most of them is a "job". For them, you are the bot and they made it possibile by rising their skill level. Their mistake ratio come close to 0.

You can't pretend to face worse enemies as you can't pretend a completely even matchmaking. If the skill base level in matchmaking is flat, everyone would get a kill and then they would die. 

This whole argument is very complex and has much more to add then "give me bot lobbies". We are no more in Season 1 where noone knew what to do and how, and pretending to get a lobby full of new players just to get your 20kills badge is kinda disrespectful. Your complain  wouldn't make sense since they would want the same thing.

To conclude, i wish you the best of luck with your badges, and as i said, my advice is to fully analize your gameplay and your mistakes (positioning, when and how to push, who and when you should engage, 3rd-4th-andsoon-party analisis, fight duration, map rotation, end-zone gameplay, weapons and legends meta, and much more) instead of waiting to get worse enemies. PEACE

@AlexGastCrew i have been playing this game for 2 years now roughly an hour a day. honestly i just want to have fun and relax a little bit. i don't think i can improve much more since i lack the mechanical skill to 1 v 3 preds and masters.

i am not as good as any of those streamers thats why i don't want to play like its my job and sweat like my life depends on it. 

i just want real bot lobbys with enemys that are not real humans just for fun so i can relax and maybe face 2 ppl at the same time without getting instantly deleted.

@Mortal-san 

I didnt miss your point at all. I understand that you think you should be in easier lobbies where fewer players are much better than you, so you have a fair chance to get 20kill and 4k banners. But that is exactly what I was arguing against. 20kills and 4k banners, earned without smurfing in low tier ranked, ARE for those who are high elo players, i.e masters, preds and some lucky or very persistent diamonds.   My point is that those banners would mean nothing if the matchmaking was designed to allow EVERY player at EVERY skill level a fair chance of getting them, which pretty much is what you are requesting. 

I play on EU, usually Frankfurt datacenter, and I peaked at master a couple of splits ago but usually a typical Diamond3+ player. I am the kind of player that easily can get Diamond4 as solo in just a couple of gaming sessions, but really needed 2 good premades with alot of strategy, teamplay and grinding to get out of Diamond. I also have several 4k banners and 3k banners at almost all legends that dont have 4k. 

One of your argument, or rather complains, was that you always get trash teammates and therefore stood without chance of getting those banners... This is the game when I got my most recent 4k. As you can see, my teammates were ALSO useless, which they are in 9/10 of my solo matches.  In 9/10 of my matches, I am teamed with teammates who cant win a single 1v1. If I want them to survive, I have to carry them in every fight and be the damage dealer. I NEVER get carried to a win in pubs. In almost every of my wins, I do 2x dmg than BOTH my random teammates together. So I am in the exact same situation as you, with the only difference that I reached a certain skill level that allows me to earn those banner.

I think your argument is equivalent to saying: Can I get bot lobbies in ranked so I can reach Predator? Predator rank, which is something that I NEVER will achieve, just aswell as 4k 20 kill banners, are just not available for everyone unless they climb the skill ladder to required skill.  I wouldnt call my lobbies "bot lobbies" but they are easy, approx. equivalent to gold ranked lobbies with a handful of preds/masters/diamonds here and there. Those who are better than me will have an even easier time and for them, pubs might feel like "bot lobbies". And there you have it. Its all about the RELATIVE term of skill and climbing the skill ladder (or accept and be content where you are which I am)

@Balladalidila  ok seems like you are clearly better than me so why do your matches feel like gold elo with a few preds while half of my lobby has legitimate masters and pred divetrails + a few diamonds? 

i think the badges are the only reason to play right now they are just a nice little thing everybody should be able to grind for just like every other badge. i think what really seperates the very good players (like popular streamers) from the rest is the fact that they can get multiple of those matches every day. 

i just want a fair chance so i can get one maybe once a week so i can grind all the badges for all legends!

 @Mortal-san 

Do your lobby really have half pred/master/diamond trails when playing solo? What server are you playin on?  I can have lobbies like that when I play full with my premade 3-stack squad with two expreds/exmasters friends and we play very well. But when I play solo, my lobbies are usually like gold with a 10-15 Diamond-to-Pred including us, and I have 2.4 overall K/D. If you have both lower peak rank and lower K/D than me, I find it very strange if you would have harder casual solo lobbies.

I honestly think you kinda forget that skill is relative. A silver player will get melted by a Platinum player, and a Platinum player might get melted by me just as I get melted by some preds sometimes. So when you think those high elo streamers get bot lobbies, its really the same lobbies and you and I, only that their skill is so high that they steam roll everything. Guys like Imperialhall smurfs in Predator games so OFC they will steam roll everyone and everything in solo pubs.

But anyways; Ofc I understand that everyone would want the best badges but the reason why they are the best is because they are the hardest to get. Would you really feel that good about them if you knew you were "handicapped" and matched with easier opponents to get them? I know I dont. I have several 20 kills and 4k damage badges also on my smurfs but I dont even wear them because I think that would just be pathetic and embarrassing since I got them when I was smurfing.

i just want them so i can't complain about versing better players (and because i like to unlock stuff) lol 

the past 2 days have been ok with only 6-10 pred and master squads but before that i had rounds with 2 normals 2 diamond 2 masters and the rest preds. 

i also play on frankfurt but when i play with mates the lowest divetrail is diamond and its 80% 3stack masters and preds. (our highest rank was diamond) and they hardly play anymore because of that. 

my k/d is only like 1.3- 1.4 but my games are slowly getting easier the more i rage quit and/or take a few days break from the game

@Mortal-san 

Yeah the matchmaking is considerably harder when you play 3-stack. Thats why I prefer solo when I go for high dmg hunts and thats why all streamers play solo to get their 5k+ dmg games.. Because what people refuse to accept is that bad teammates also means bad enemies. People like to victimize themselves and choose to believe that THEY are singled out in this "unfair matchmaking" and put into a huge disadvantage with two noobs vs a full lobby of sweats... But that is not true. The average level of a public lobby when soloing is quite low but it can appear very hot since there usually are a handful of good players that steamrolls.

Also, you will NEVER get high damage or kills if you play with two good players so having bad teammates is almost a requirement to get 4k dmg games.  Sometimes I randomly get matched with two other master/preds in pubs and even if we steamroll the entire lobby with 30+ team kills, we just spread out the dmg, ending up at max 3k dmg each plus that most fights are over before the enemy squad could use a single battery.

@Balladalidila yes i know thats why i want bot lobbys. i am glad that you have easy lobbys when playing solo. but even when i play solo i still play against diamonds and masters and i still can't oneclip them all. you kinda seem very fucused on the badge thing but my main point is that i want easier lobbys so i can have some fun. 

@Mortal-san 

"i want easier lobbys so i can have some fun. "

Well I guess that goes for everyone right? And everyone cant ofc have "easy" lobbies because like I said earlier; skill is relative so for someone to have "easy" lobbies requires others to have "hard" lobbies by definitions.  And I guess thats whats make it fair; solo pubs is a big melting pot of players of various skill level and when you climb the skill ladder, the game will become easier and easier until the point when you steam roll everything in your path. And just for the record; when I say that my lobbies is easy, I dont mean that I steam roll everything. But I win MOST 1v1s if I play smart but I will ofc die if I try to tank 3 enemies at the same time etc.

If Respawn stop being such cowards and implement real measures against smurfing, then people could play ranked if they wanted a more narrow SBMM and play casual if they want to play in said "melting pot"

@Balladalidila i want bots that are not controlled by players so i can set the difficulty. i dont want to stomp new players. i want ai controlled npc bots that i can set from a difficulty from 1-9 so i don't have to sweat my balls off in pred lobbys.

when i say bots i mean robots not bad players.