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Re: Game after game after game... potato teammates?!

@Dokuganryu699 That is exactly what they are doing.... if you are an above average player you will get below average team mates. What solution exactly do you propose, that the system pair bad players with bad players and good players with good players? Most of the complaints about bad games seem to come from your angle which implies that you all want decent player teamed with each other all of the time.

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  • Dokuganryu699's avatar
    Dokuganryu699
    6 years ago

    @FaIIenAngeI777  A simple report doesn't fix it mate, the report system doesn't work perfect. Most of the time the cheaters aren't banned from game.

    @SnuggleyPuffs yeah i would definitely love if bad players are paired with bad players and goods with goods. This is so important in Ranked matches, I played all 3 ranked seasons and could never reach ahead of Gold I due to crap team most of whom do not co operate, have no idea where to go and how to plan the game, they just rush and end up wasting my precious RPs. 
    Even in casuals it's no fun when you have to carry 2 teammates without any support and them busy looting every player you down. So I'd love if such change is made in the matchmaking system, atleast it'd be enjoyable playing and sharing the load of the win.

    Plus I see no reason to team a 14 level guy with a 300+ level guy in a casual match. This is where it needs to be improved. If I am having 400 kills in a character then my teammates should atleast have 250-300 kills or even badges that they can wipe out a single squad or were winners as kill leaders or something to show that they ain't useless in a fight. People have bad games, I do too and I don't mind carrying till they keep helping me but 9/10 games be like where people simply have no idea what/when/where to do. I do hope this part gets improved because it'll drastically help randoms to climb rank more fluently and make casuals fun too.

  • SnuggleyPuffs's avatar
    SnuggleyPuffs
    6 years ago
    @Dokuganryu699 What you seem to be asking for is more aggressive sbmm which will completely separate low skill players, average players, and high skill players... the matchmaking did that in season 3 and caused many people who were decent at the game to quit because they could no longer play with friends of lesser skill without getting run over. The fact is that if you are stuck in gold you are an average player and very likely only slightly more proficient than your usual team mate in ranked. SBMM shouldn’t be included in casual matches imo because it makes casual play impossible for high skill players and it isn’t necessary in ranked outside of team balancing for solo and duo queues. SBMM is doing its job if it balances teams by placing stronger players with weaker ones rather than stacking teams which would imbalance the match. If sbmm put me with predator team mates by default every round and placed us in your lobbies against your gold teams you wouldn’t enjoy the game very much.
  • Dokuganryu699's avatar
    Dokuganryu699
    6 years ago

    @SnuggleyPuffs guess what mate? i'd die fighting a predator with a squad who are actually eligible to play gold or whatever tier I am in rather than the current braindead people i'm mostly paired with, a gold tier game and my team mate is from bronze league with below 100 kills, no squad wipe out badges/kill leader winner badge/ 5 kill badges, they don't even know how to use tacticals and ultimates properly. Add no cooperation to all these, they see 3 teams fighting at a place and then rush to be heroes and get rekt first amongst the other 3 squads. I quit playing ranked due to this, these guys play ranked like casuals, drop once the timer is over and then die within 30 seconds and ping to be respawned. I have lost too much dying as 18th,19th and 20th squad since the start of season 4.

    Random matchmaking should definitely be improved, otherwise if you have no squad of yours you can't enjoy Apex will be the situation as it is atm. What I will suggest is filter the very bottom tier out and also filter the predators out. Keep these two tiers separate and let the middle and high tier people play with each other because every decent player who has improved from the low tier to the middle tier will definitely improve to compete with high tiers.

  • SnuggleyPuffs's avatar
    SnuggleyPuffs
    6 years ago
    @Dokuganryu699 I totally agree with you that the mid tier could be focused a bit better if SBMM has to stay. I would really prefer it just be gone, the negative side effect of that being that terrible players will make up most of every lobby... the upside is that good players are rare anyways so they will not be over represented if SBMM were just removed. In ranked unfortunately I doubt you are going to find many like minded randoms in gold and for me when I solo queued it didn’t improve much in platinum either. I even had a high percentage of no mic solo droppers in diamond which is astounding to me. I am sure you already do this but try and talk to your team mates while dropping and communicate your intentions. I find that when I get frustrated and refuse to talk it goes terribly
  • Dokuganryu699's avatar
    Dokuganryu699
    6 years ago

    Can they not improve the SBMM system? Modify it or bring in new idea which doesn't ruin the fun of better than average players who are randoms and without a squad. That's what I want from Apex instead of all these * * cosmetics they are releasing every day. They're simply trying to milk the market out without fixing actual areas, instead they are introducing unbalanced changes to perfectly balanced stuffs. 

    Also, I don't mind if you don't have a mic but communicate through chats but there are people who do not listen at all and will land at the Mirage Voyage irrespective of the path of the dropship and half of the time the dropship starts around Mirage Voyage and boom they go and die as the 18/19/20th squad losing RP time and again. I simply cannot help, I can't fight against 5 teams without guns or with a pistol. This is what I want Apex to improve, slot people as my teammates who are atleast around my skill - a bit less or more skilled than me works. Let the badges be scanned irrespective of their display in banner. If I have a Kill Leader and Champion badge/4k damage badge I'd expect my teammates to have atleast one of them or both to be assigned as my teammate, check the highest number of kills the player got on their account, average damage per game and other important stats and badges and slot teammates likewise. Atleast do it for ranked to help out the above average random players without squad to get past gold and plats.

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