Re: SKILL BASED MATCHMAKING PLEASE

After reading the article I decided to put it to a test. For the last several weeks or months whichever I keep getting placed with very low level players. Who are lucky to break 100 damage in game. Yet the squads we are facing all have 2K killbadges. 
So I started a scrub account and played against other sub 20 level players. At level 10 to 15 I started seeing champion squads with max levels and the 4K kill badges. Now I can compete against people my own skill level and sometimes better. Other times I lose. But I think that this article is a little misleading because how on earth can you bring a rank 10 to 15 into a squad where there are these predators and say there is matchmaking? 

to be clear on my smurf account I am being humble and not super aggressive. I have my other account that is for that. This was just to test my theory, since on my other account I would consider it aggressive I am constantly lobbied with noobs whether it is casual or ranked. 

In all fairness to Respawn I know this is a balance issue. From my perspective there really hasn’t been any matchmaking in the squad lobby, but it sure feels like they are matching opponents based on the strongest squad mate. Which brings us back to solos. What is the point of grouping people like this? 

A better solution would be premades have their own lobby and random fill their own lobby.

Jut my two pennies worth.

To add to what I posted here is a random casual game.

sorry about the blurry photos, but you can clearly see my teammates are super aggro type players. Which I am fine with. Also just based on the champion it looks to be a sweaty lobby. Again I am fine with that. But how can you qualify this as skill based matchmaking? Any given stat on my profile is nowhere near the levels these guys had. 

for me I kept up in game and it was ok. But if I was truly new to the game this on a regular basis would * me off. And I would be leaving Apex. Again there has to be a balance and IDC what anyone working for Respawn has to say right now because it is clearly missing. Stack a level 18 in a lobby of tryharda fine. Just don’t put out there that you have sbmm. Because clearly you don’t.

@MajchiDaFroggoYT  If solo one of the 4 Iowa servers. If premade then I switch to my teammates server. Yep 

This skill based match making will be the death of the game. Already have friends that quit playing with me because the lobbies it puts us in is constantly run by 4k damage 20 kill badge gods. I'm good but my friends aren't to my caliber and now I have to feel guilty for draining there experience. Skill public could be a thing but would have to be a seperate game mode. Call it ranked scrimmage. However there is nothing casual about a casual game for me and I dont understand why any game company would reward a player base it doesnt have at the expenses of the returning player base 

Those  kids look trash bro.    Tbh. I get put in lobbies with people that are 23,900 kills. You aint seen nothing yet.

SBMM is the bane of gaming existence. When you first start playing a new online war game, you're going to die a lot. It stands to reason because you're new at the game. 

When I played Medal Of Honor: Allied Assault, I died a lot. I mean more than getting kills. So? Why wouldn't I given the fact that I was new at the game?

SBMM is nothing more than holding the hands of noobs so they could have a better experience when just starting to play a game. Unfortunately, this sacrifices their learning experience. How can they improve when they're constantly playing against people with the same skill level? Did you ever learn to play tennis? If you had a decent teacher, he would teach the basics and then play against you. But, unless you play against someone better than you, you never learn how to make better decisions. It's simple logic. SBMM is about making money for game developers and not about better noob experience. We already have to deal with lag compensation from online gaming. Now, we have the choice of who to play with take away. How does that lead to improving your skills?

Anyone know how they actually determine SBMM? Im a new player. Level 5. And my 3rd game ever was in a lobby with multiple predator squads. I was solo as well so I wasn't getting pulked into my high level friends games but it still threw me into matches with insanely high level people with nearly 20k kills. 

@DoomSpartan117:

"Anyone know how they actually determine SBMM? Im a new player. Level 5. And my 3rd game ever was in a lobby with multiple predator squads. I was solo as well so I wasn't getting pulked into my high level friends games but it still threw me into matches with insanely high level people with nearly 20k kills."

Can someone listen to this guy?

all pleople saying that SBMM exists... Can you read this? because if you can, you will easily notice that:
1. SBMM does NOT exist in casual games
2. If it does, It is completely wrong made

And the ones saying you learn by playing against predators... Really? you really believe that a level 5 guy learns anything getting lasered by a pro? Dude... they don't even see it coming... most platinum people doesn't...

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@DoomSpartan117 wrote:

Anyone know how they actually determine SBMM? Im a new player. Level 5. And my 3rd game ever was in a lobby with multiple predator squads. I was solo as well so I wasn't getting pulked into my high level friends games but it still threw me into matches with insanely high level people with nearly 20k kills. 

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Two possibilities.

Either you got a lot of kills in your early games, or you were unlucky & got dropped into a high SBMM lobby to make up the numbers.

I imagine the latter happens more often at quieter times of the day.