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Re: SKILL BASED MATCHMAKING PLEASE

Well if everyone in pubs doesn't want sweaty games then skill based matchmaking is fine right? everyone will be relaxed along with you because it's not ranked. That is, unless your actual intention is some easy noob kills to unwind when not playing ranked. I am sorry but if i am bad at the game, i want to play with other players like me whether its ranked or not. Chilling in the lobby because a pro wiped the floor with my face doesn't help me grow as a player. I also don't think new players should be matched with good players as we will bring their game down and get flamed for it.

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  • RwFinfrock's avatar
    RwFinfrock
    6 years ago
    @IamDigicide Play ranked. That's skill based. If u suck u play with people who suck. Public isnt ranked. Low level trash players can grind bronze and silver ranked for experience. What do top end players get? There is nothing enjoyable about only top end players all in the same lobby unless it's for cash.
  • When a game dies it doesnt die all at once it's gradual. People are holding out still in hopes that an update will correct things but people some are giving up on the game therefore "will" be the death is what I intended. The game is clearly not dead but without a true casual mode people are losing interest. I myself am losing interest. I post on these forums because I remember how much I enjoyed the game previously.

  • Pha1n0's avatar
    Pha1n0
    6 years ago

    @IamDigicide wrote:

    Well if everyone in pubs doesn't want sweaty games then skill based matchmaking is fine right? everyone will be relaxed along with you because it's not ranked. That is, unless your actual intention is some easy noob kills to unwind when not playing ranked. I am sorry but if i am bad at the game, i want to play with other players like me whether its ranked or not. Chilling in the lobby because a pro wiped the floor with my face doesn't help me grow as a player. I also don't think new players should be matched with good players as we will bring their game down and get flamed for it.


    Their title suits - their attitude. Predators. 

    This is what they want. They want an easy environment for themselves to prey on the easy and feel good about themselves. 

  • @Pha1n0 You're missing the point

    Pubs need to be random or else it stops being pubs. Some matches will be easy others hard but they need to be random

    We already have ranked

    Respawn noted about 2-3% of people are preds and diamond. So then why are my pubs made up of 50% preds n diamonds?

    I'm an avg player plat ranked

    When u take away the motive to improve and grind a game people walk away.
  • Pha1n0's avatar
    Pha1n0
    6 years ago

    @highOctane91prem wrote:
    @Pha1n0You're missing the point

    Pubs need to be random or else it stops being pubs. Some matches will be easy others hard but they need to be random

    We already have ranked

    Respawn noted about 2-3% of people are preds and diamond. So then why are my pubs made up of 50% preds n diamonds?

    I'm an avg player plat ranked

    When u take away the motive to improve and grind a game people walk away.

    I think you guys are missing the point... 

    I've played this game for 10 months now, and I'm tired of getting my face smashed in by guys with 5000 to 10000 kill in random.  I'm a father and I'm an adult who works and just want to get into a game with my quality of players.

    And don't tell me ranked is for that because in ranked I get put with gold 4 through gold 1, but that doesn't mean that they're the same level of skill as me. A predator team could have started the season late and right now they're only in gold, and I'm sure you'll say well eventually they'll move up out of gold. But what about all the Platinum teams, the premades - they're always there.

    See rank doesn't do what you guys think it does until you get into the diamond or platinum or predator category. 

    But again, if all you pros or better than the average Joe guys who spend 30 hours a week playing this game, don't like sweating and actually trying in a pub game, get good. 

    Because that's what we've been told for the last 10 months to a year. We've been dealing with those types of games non-stop whether it's ranked or pub. 

    You guys are the 1% and you're complaining that you don't want to be in tough games every game you play. Welcome to our little bit of hell...

    Signed

    The 99%... 

    Edit: Oh man - don't make me laugh when you call yourself an AVG player in plat... that's straight ignorance right there. 

  • @Pha1n0 no one cares for a game too easy because then it isnt rewarding. We want a fair game where improvement has results. When you improve why should you get punished? Perhaps maybe you should consider what makes ur gameplay worse instead of how the company can make it better. Gold rank is enough time investment that you should have some skill. Maybe you should change your playstyle instead of expecting a game to remove every player better than you. I dont understand how your argument holds any water.
  • Pha1n0's avatar
    Pha1n0
    6 years ago

    You just argued the fact that - "no one cares for a game too easy" and then contradicted yourself about wanting a 'fair game'. So you want to have an easy game - because you put 30 hours in a week and the avg joe - only can put in 5 hours a week. 

    but see - you're ok with owning 'noobs'... we are the noobs. we aren't ok with it. and saying "gold rank" is enough time that you should have SOME skill. Who the hell are you to tell me what skill i should or shouldn't have? 

    See this is the problem with you predators - you all think everyone should be at your level and if you aren't - your response. Get good. 

    Enjoy the knew SBMM - we are finally now enjoying the game the way you used too - EXCEPT we aren't OWNING noobs... we are playing against guys our level - not 30 - 40 hour a week players. 

    Oh and again - why don't you change your playstyle? You're the one b*tching that things are just too tough now... cry more. 

  • I think you guys are missing the point... 

    I've played this game for 10 months now, and I'm tired of getting my face smashed in by guys with 5000 to 10000 kill in random.  I'm a father and I'm an adult who works and just want to get into a game with my quality of players.

    And don't tell me ranked is for that because in ranked I get put with gold 4 through gold 1, but that doesn't mean that they're the same level of skill as me. A predator team could have started the season late and right now they're only in gold, and I'm sure you'll say well eventually they'll move up out of gold. But what about all the Platinum teams, the premades - they're always there.

    See rank doesn't do what you guys think it does until you get into the diamond or platinum or predator category. 

    But again, if all you pros or better than the average Joe guys who spend 30 hours a week playing this game, don't like sweating and actually trying in a pub game, get good. 

    Because that's what we've been told for the last 10 months to a year. We've been dealing with those types of games non-stop whether it's ranked or pub. 

    You guys are the 1% and you're complaining that you don't want to be in tough games every game you play. Welcome to our little bit of hell...

    Signed

    The 99%... 

    This post was reported for spam? Great job EA on removing it. Complete trash move. 

  • @Pha1n0 

    GIt good or go play another game.  You honestly expect to be good at a player vs player game without investing a lot of time?!?

    I highly recommend that you try out Destiny 2 or Borderlands 1,2, 3.  They are PVE (player vs environment).  You can stomp on stuff to your heart's desire!

  • Pha1n0's avatar
    Pha1n0
    6 years ago

    @Pallo421 wrote:

    @Pha1n0 

    GIt good or go play another game.  You honestly expect to be good at a player vs player game without investing a lot of time?!?

    I highly recommend that you try out Destiny 2 or Borderlands 1,2, 3.  They are PVE (player vs environment).  You can stomp on stuff to your heart's desire!


    And here we go. - bullying / get good. 

    You're all trash humans. 

  • @Pha1n0 Ranked is for Skill based match making. Pubs should be entirely random. The skill based match making system thats in place currently is so skewed that the good players are forced out of their home servers and pushed into other servers. This is one of my main issues with SBMM, apex doesnt have the number of players really needed for it. My Internet is the best available in my area, but i have a decent packet loss everywhere except dallas. this is why i play on dallas. I dont mind playing off my server from time to time in ranked, but if i want to chill out and play pubs, I want to be on my home server with no issues. Getting PKd through doors gets old, the games broken. Casual players might love it, but when the majority realizes they are doing better this season because they are in bot lobbies, they will wonder why they arent higher in the que. Im constantly getting messages from viewers talking about how much their KD has improved this season. I dont have the heart to tell them they likely arent actually improving. The way new players get better on any game is going against great players. I came to apex better than most because I was a diehard titanfall fan. Respawn has lost my support over this series and i will not be buying titanfall 3
  • @Pha1n0 

    Everything you have said in your posts is exactly how i see it as well. Higher level players want to noob stomp every now and then plain and simple. I know a lot of people say "play ranked if you want sbmm" but I do play ranked, I play ranked in a squad and pubs when i am solo. Who knows, maybe they are the ones who are not playing the game as intended haha.

    Having said that, the sbmm is definitely not perfect and needs tweaking but its a step in the right direction in my opinion.

  • Ix_Nost_xI's avatar
    Ix_Nost_xI
    6 years ago

    Very well said.  

    Level 500+ here and yesterday I tried to play and each time I q up I got into room with people no higher the entire time then level 14.  I'm currently looking for a new game to play as of today.

  • I am lvl 103 but I have just over 500 kills in my lifetime in this game seeing how I just started playing the last month or so. I was doing good until I got my 3k badge and now, I am getting paired with people that have 20K kills or more with one character. They were pushing the entire lobby like they knew they were the best in the lobby and didn't belong with a bunch of noobs. Extremely frustrating cause I was really enjoying the game until now. This has happened on almost every game now for the last few days since I got that badge. 

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