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Re: The Apex store is an absolute scam and I don't care about the prices.

@crumpsly I mean, it sounds like you are complaining about the prices. An heirloom is basically priced at $500.

It sounds crazy to me, but there are lots of games where highly exclusive cosmetic items are the main money drivers, including Warframe, for example.

Did you buy all 4 of the $25 skins for ALGS?

If not, then you're really just complaining about the pricing structure for completely optional cosmetic items. I would tend to see that as invalidating your argument. You don't need any of them to play the game, therefore spending money to buy them is something you either decide to do or not to do.

If you don't like prices, it doesn't mean they're a scam. As far as heirlooms are concerned, the devs have been VERY clear that you shouldn't expect to get one without opening up to 500 packs, so it's not like you can claim you didn't know how rare they were. Not getting what you wanted is also frustrating, but not a scam.

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  • LaughingSharko's avatar
    LaughingSharko
    4 years ago
    @TheApexLegendNub You don't have to do any of that. You don't have to buy $30. You don't have to spend $25. You can just not buy the skins.

    A scam is advertising something that is false or misleading. With Apex coins, you know exactly how much you things cost and how much you need to meet that cost.

    If you choose to spend $30, you can buy one skin and get something else worth 500 Apex coins. Or you can buy $50 worth of Apex coins and buy 2 skins. Or $40 worth and by 1 ALGS skin and another legendary skin and other items.

    If you feel the ALGS skin isn't worth buying $30 of coin for it, then don't. It's not that complicated. If you don't feel Legendary skins are worth purchasing $20 of coins and having money left over, then don't buy them. The same thing goes for battle passes.

    You have all the information needed to make your decision, what you decide is not Respawn's fault, and most certainly not a scam.
  • crumpsly's avatar
    crumpsly
    4 years ago

    I bought the Pathfinder ALGS bundle as I play him most often. I've spent hundreds on this game and completed a bunch of the battle passes. Like I said I don't mind spending money on the games I enjoy.

    I would pay $500 outright for an heirloom. I have bought multiple "editions" as they have a dollar value and aren't locked behind proprietary prices. I don't care about the skins being expensive. I care that so much of the cosmetics are locked behind gambling. It doesn't reward the people who plays thousands of hours, it exploits those who are gambling addicts or have stupid amounts of disposable income. But I'm certainly not going to buy $500 worth of packs for the chance to win an heirloom because I'd have better luck winning actual money at a literal casino.

    > As far as heirlooms are concerned, the devs have been VERY clear that you shouldn't expect to get one without opening up to 500 packs

    I've opened well over 500 and haven't gotten one. I've watched streamers open hundreds on stream and get nothing. I understand how a slot machine works and that's the problem. It's a scam because instead of these awesome pieces of art being made available to the people who have been supporting this game since it's launch, it's locked behind a predatory gambling structure. It's a scam.

  • crumpsly's avatar
    crumpsly
    4 years ago

    I doubt that is enforced at all. I know for a fact I've opened at least 345 from purchased apex coins alone before season 3, + 20 for level 1-20, and another 165 from level 20-350 + however many from battle passes and flash events. That's why I don't buy them anymore and call them a scam lol.

  • @crumpsly What do you mean enforced? It's hardwired into the game, lol. You get legendary items every X number of packs, and the same with heirlooms. If you don't have one your math is obviously off.

    Otherwise, you know what you can do? Contact customer service. You can show them your pack purchases and demand your free heirloom. So if you have the records on your account, go for it!
  • crumpsly's avatar
    crumpsly
    4 years ago

    > If you don't have one your math is obviously off.

    I bought the $100 apex coin pack at the start once each season in season 1, 2 and 3. You get enough coins for 115 packs from each. 115 x 3 is 345. I know I've opened at least 500. I have contacted customer service about it a couple time. Once in like season 4 and they told me there was nothing they could do. Once in season 9 because the few packs I had didn't work. The game would disconnect while opening, pack was gone and nothing added to my inventory. Again was told there was nothing that could be done.

    But honestly that's beside the point, because this was never a post about me wanting an heirloom. It's a post about how the proprietary currency is a dishonest business model that exploits people as opposed to one that allows the people who support the game the most to be rewarded with their loyalty. Even if I had all the heirlooms it wouldn't change the fact that charging 1800 coins for something and not allowing you to buy 1800 coins is scummy. Imagine going to a store and trying to buy something for 5 dollars, but they tell you that you can only buy it with StoreBucks and you can only purchase a minimum of $20 of StoreBucks. Would you shop there?

    I don't care if the * is expensive. Just let me buy it outright, instead of forcing me to play a slot machine.

  • @crumpslyhttps://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Can-t-recieve-heirloom-shards-through-500-after-lock-ACE/m-p/10062900/highlight/true#M98409

    This post may help with your pack calculations.

    As for the other point, I think you'd have to rail against any free-to-play MMO if you want the option to pay exactly the dollar amount of each item. I'm not sure if it has to do with different platforms taking their cut or some payment processor requirements, but I've never seen any MMOs that allow you to purchase custom amounts of virtual currency.

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