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crumpsly's avatar
crumpsly
5 years ago

The Apex store is an absolute scam and I don't care about the prices.

This is not a complaint about things being too expensive. I am happy to spend good money on a game I enjoy and I really enjoy Apex. My problem lies in the incredibly predatory nature of the lootbox/...
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LaughingSharko's avatar
LaughingSharko
5 years ago
@crumpsly I mean, it sounds like you are complaining about the prices. An heirloom is basically priced at $500.

It sounds crazy to me, but there are lots of games where highly exclusive cosmetic items are the main money drivers, including Warframe, for example.

Did you buy all 4 of the $25 skins for ALGS?

If not, then you're really just complaining about the pricing structure for completely optional cosmetic items. I would tend to see that as invalidating your argument. You don't need any of them to play the game, therefore spending money to buy them is something you either decide to do or not to do.

If you don't like prices, it doesn't mean they're a scam. As far as heirlooms are concerned, the devs have been VERY clear that you shouldn't expect to get one without opening up to 500 packs, so it's not like you can claim you didn't know how rare they were. Not getting what you wanted is also frustrating, but not a scam.
  • TheApexLegendNu's avatar
    TheApexLegendNu
    5 years ago
    @LaughingSharko Your missing the whole point, the prices themselves are not the scam... the scam is that you have to pay $30 just to get a $25 skin
    • LaughingSharko's avatar
      LaughingSharko
      5 years ago
      @TheApexLegendNub You don't have to do any of that. You don't have to buy $30. You don't have to spend $25. You can just not buy the skins.

      A scam is advertising something that is false or misleading. With Apex coins, you know exactly how much you things cost and how much you need to meet that cost.

      If you choose to spend $30, you can buy one skin and get something else worth 500 Apex coins. Or you can buy $50 worth of Apex coins and buy 2 skins. Or $40 worth and by 1 ALGS skin and another legendary skin and other items.

      If you feel the ALGS skin isn't worth buying $30 of coin for it, then don't. It's not that complicated. If you don't feel Legendary skins are worth purchasing $20 of coins and having money left over, then don't buy them. The same thing goes for battle passes.

      You have all the information needed to make your decision, what you decide is not Respawn's fault, and most certainly not a scam.
  • crumpsly's avatar
    crumpsly
    5 years ago

    I bought the Pathfinder ALGS bundle as I play him most often. I've spent hundreds on this game and completed a bunch of the battle passes. Like I said I don't mind spending money on the games I enjoy.

    I would pay $500 outright for an heirloom. I have bought multiple "editions" as they have a dollar value and aren't locked behind proprietary prices. I don't care about the skins being expensive. I care that so much of the cosmetics are locked behind gambling. It doesn't reward the people who plays thousands of hours, it exploits those who are gambling addicts or have stupid amounts of disposable income. But I'm certainly not going to buy $500 worth of packs for the chance to win an heirloom because I'd have better luck winning actual money at a literal casino.

    > As far as heirlooms are concerned, the devs have been VERY clear that you shouldn't expect to get one without opening up to 500 packs

    I've opened well over 500 and haven't gotten one. I've watched streamers open hundreds on stream and get nothing. I understand how a slot machine works and that's the problem. It's a scam because instead of these awesome pieces of art being made available to the people who have been supporting this game since it's launch, it's locked behind a predatory gambling structure. It's a scam.

    • LaughingSharko's avatar
      LaughingSharko
      5 years ago
      @crumpsly You're literally guaranteed to get one after opening 500 packs, so you're not being honest here.
      • crumpsly's avatar
        crumpsly
        5 years ago

        I doubt that is enforced at all. I know for a fact I've opened at least 345 from purchased apex coins alone before season 3, + 20 for level 1-20, and another 165 from level 20-350 + however many from battle passes and flash events. That's why I don't buy them anymore and call them a scam lol.

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