Actually bangalore is quicker and has more utility than wraith, its nearly impossible to chase a bang through her smoke but wraiths tactical gives no speed buff at all she just walks normal speed she is actually a very slow character. The only benefit is the smaller hit box.
Lol you are so wrong it's hilarious.
Actually there are 8 ways to expose bangalore from smoke: gold close range optic, gold long range optic, crypto drone, bloodhound q/ulti, loba q, pathfinder q, octane q, w key + some brains.
And no bangalore has much less utility than wraith both offensively and defensively by a gross amount, she just has a lot more unnecessary margin for error which makes her appear better to newer players.
Wraith's portal that comes off cooldown every 100 seconds or so along with her q if you need it and a thermite grenade is a better get out of jail free card than bangs smoke or artillery by a mile. Bang is quicker but in terms of group utility defensively speaking portal is ridiculously more effective at moving a team out of harms way and synergizing with other teammates abilities than artillery (which has a much longer cooldown) and smoke grenades.
Wraiths q when played with a good team is actually much much stronger than bangalores smoke which is why its on a 30 second timer. The way youre supposed to play wraith with a team offensively is to go in first do a ton of damage and q out to heal while your other two teammates take care of whats rest. Bangalore cannot do this as she will either be killed or cloud the place with too much smoke for her teammates to get a visual.
In other words wraith greatly is superior in offensive and defensive utility than bangalore. This also is why you see pro players playing wraith and not bangalore, because of wraiths vastly superior utility. I know this because i played maybe 4 weeks of last season and got 80 wins on bangalore within that time period, changed to wraith at the end of the season and my KD has doubled and have a higher win rate thus far.
In total bangalore though fun to play is a much weaker character but yea if youre new to the game youre not going to be good with wraith and think she's weak which is literally all ive read on this ridiculous forum feed. Thankfully it seems respawn listens to pro players and not this horrid forum feed. Like this whole "qq idk how to play wraith" forum feed is cringe to say the least. A good player can get themselves out of trouble and kill enemy players, a great player can get their team out of trouble along with themselves and help their team get kills as opposed to just themselves.
Other than that, this shadow nerf to her movement speed while casting portal was entirely uncalled for and respawn needs to revert that or at least put it in the patch notes.
Edit: Wraith's speed buf is actually her ulti she gains a great amount of movement speed when using it--well at least until this recent shadow nerf to it. And you should not need high amounts of movement speed more than its cooldown timer unless youre newer to the game and making a fair amount of tactical errors. Also here's a tip: slide jump during wraiths q and you get a small movement speed increase which is really all you need if you have planned your exit and not blindly walked into a fight.
@squirtgunpumper wrote:Lol you are so wrong it's hilarious.
Actually there are 8 ways to expose bangalore from smoke: gold close range optic, gold long range optic, crypto drone, bloodhound q/ulti, loba q, pathfinder q, octane q, w key + some brains.
And no bangalore has much less utility than wraith both offensively and defensively by a gross amount, she just has a lot more unnecessary margin for error which makes her appear better to newer players.
Wraith's portal that comes off cooldown every 100 seconds or so along with her q if you need it and a thermite grenade is a better get out of jail free card than bangs smoke or artillery by a mile. Bang is quicker but in terms of group utility defensively speaking portal is ridiculously more effective at moving a team out of harms way and synergizing with other teammates abilities than artillery (which has a much longer cooldown) and smoke grenades.
Wraiths q when played with a good team is actually much much stronger than bangalores smoke which is why its on a 30 second timer. The way youre supposed to play wraith with a team offensively is to go in first do a ton of damage and q out to heal while your other two teammates take care of whats rest. Bangalore cannot do this as she will either be killed or cloud the place with too much smoke for her teammates to get a visual.
In other words wraith greatly is superior in offensive and defensive utility than bangalore. This also is why you see pro players playing wraith and not bangalore, because of wraiths vastly superior utility. I know this because i played maybe 4 weeks of last season and got 80 wins on bangalore within that time period, changed to wraith at the end of the season and my KD has doubled and have a higher win rate thus far.
In total bangalore though fun to play is a much weaker character but yea if youre new to the game youre not going to be good with wraith and think she's weak which is literally all ive read on this ridiculous forum feed. Thankfully it seems respawn listens to pro players and not this horrid forum feed. Like this whole "qq idk how to play wraith" forum feed is cringe to say the least. A good player can get themselves out of trouble and kill enemy players, a great player can get their team out of trouble along with themselves and help their team get kills as opposed to just themselves.
Other than that, this shadow nerf to her movement speed while casting portal was entirely uncalled for and respawn needs to revert that or at least put it in the patch notes.
Edit: Wraith's speed buf is actually her ulti she gains a great amount of movement speed when using it--well at least until this recent shadow nerf to it. And you should not need high amounts of movement speed more than its cooldown timer unless youre newer to the game and making a fair amount of tactical errors. Also here's a tip: slide jump during wraiths q and you get a small movement speed increase which is really all you need if you have planned your exit and not blindly walked into a fight.
again you are wrong wraith used to get a speed buff season 1 to season 3 while using her tactical ability she does not anymore and she has been nerfed to the ground you can't just go damage and phase as the phase has 1 second activation which you would get dropped before you can even trigger it. Wraith is not what she used to be the only benefit she provides is the small hitbox. The speedbuff from the ultimate is not viable as you can't even shoot while using it and when you trigger the portal it takes 1 second to pull out your gun so its is not meant to be offensive. Wraith is not what she used to be which is why you don't see pro apex streamers playing as her anymore you see them pick wattson and pathfinder not wraith she is decent in pub stomping since people are disorganized and you can phase and maybe pray they loose you, but by no means a good character.
@squirtgunpumper wrote:Lol you are so wrong it's hilarious.
Actually there are 8 ways to expose bangalore from smoke: gold close range optic, gold long range optic, crypto drone, bloodhound q/ulti, loba q, pathfinder q, octane q, w key + some brains.
And no bangalore has much less utility than wraith both offensively and defensively by a gross amount, she just has a lot more unnecessary margin for error which makes her appear better to newer players.
Wraith's portal that comes off cooldown every 100 seconds or so along with her q if you need it and a thermite grenade is a better get out of jail free card than bangs smoke or artillery by a mile. Bang is quicker but in terms of group utility defensively speaking portal is ridiculously more effective at moving a team out of harms way and synergizing with other teammates abilities than artillery (which has a much longer cooldown) and smoke grenades.
Wraiths q when played with a good team is actually much much stronger than bangalores smoke which is why its on a 30 second timer. The way youre supposed to play wraith with a team offensively is to go in first do a ton of damage and q out to heal while your other two teammates take care of whats rest. Bangalore cannot do this as she will either be killed or cloud the place with too much smoke for her teammates to get a visual.
In other words wraith greatly is superior in offensive and defensive utility than bangalore. This also is why you see pro players playing wraith and not bangalore, because of wraiths vastly superior utility. I know this because i played maybe 4 weeks of last season and got 80 wins on bangalore within that time period, changed to wraith at the end of the season and my KD has doubled and have a higher win rate thus far.
In total bangalore though fun to play is a much weaker character but yea if youre new to the game youre not going to be good with wraith and think she's weak which is literally all ive read on this ridiculous forum feed. Thankfully it seems respawn listens to pro players and not this horrid forum feed. Like this whole "qq idk how to play wraith" forum feed is cringe to say the least. A good player can get themselves out of trouble and kill enemy players, a great player can get their team out of trouble along with themselves and help their team get kills as opposed to just themselves.
Other than that, this shadow nerf to her movement speed while casting portal was entirely uncalled for and respawn needs to revert that or at least put it in the patch notes.
Edit: Wraith's speed buf is actually her ulti she gains a great amount of movement speed when using it--well at least until this recent shadow nerf to it. And you should not need high amounts of movement speed more than its cooldown timer unless youre newer to the game and making a fair amount of tactical errors. Also here's a tip: slide jump during wraiths q and you get a small movement speed increase which is really all you need if you have planned your exit and not blindly walked into a fight.
You are clueless, Wraiths Tactical used to give her a speed buff it was present until season 3 then removed. She can't go in and damage then get out as her tactical has 1 second to activate and only lasts 3.75 seconds you will sometimes even get dropped before being able to activate it. the only benefit she provides is her small hitbox as the movement speed from her ult can not be used for offense as she can't even shoot while using it. Wraith has been nerfed to the ground which is why most pro streamers don't touch wraith anymore. Wattson and pathfinder are way better choices. I doubt your rank is above platinum if you still push wraith as a strong character wraiths pick rate drops to irrelevant beyond diamond for a reason she is useless against decent people.
