Yeah. I'm serious.Because in the end, whether the knockdown is there or not yields zero difference nowadays. Everyone - and I mean literally everyone - immediately kills you after you go down regardless of whether they're being attacked by the rest of your squad or not. Knockdown shields don't work either so yeah. It's about the kill, not the victory. So you might as well save them the effort of having to "kill" someone twice and remove the knockdown phase.Or an alternative idea: Make knockdown shields actually useful, not easy to bypass and give people who went down actually a chance to survive in a knocked state. As it is right now I just immediately tab out because I get killed anyway, and when I get revived, the icon will flash.

Nah, only when you get yourself knocked:1) far from cover, like running around out in the open for no reason OR2) out of position from your team, like running around solo with no friendly nearby.will your knockdown shield be useless. If you play as a team where everyone in your team is doing what they should in a fight (do damage + keep the enemy players busy), the enemies wont have the time and space to finish you off, especially if you have a blue or purple shield. I dont know how many fights Ive won only because some noob enemy is sooooo thirsty to finish you off they spend entire mags to do it instead of helping their friends 2v1 one of your remaining teammates. Can suck if they succeed but if your teammates play their cards right, your execution will help them to win the fight.I know this is something that wont happen very often when you play with randoms, especially in casual but when you play with a full premade squad, especially in higher elo (Diamond3+ to master etc), your knockdown is not useless at all.

@D3loFF I think that would be an interesting idea for the legendary knockdown shield . I think we all can agree that of all legendary items, the knockdown shield is the worst. After 10k matches, I could almost count on my fingers how many times Ive actually got a self res through and managed to do something meaningful afterwards. So many things out of your control must happen if you will have any success with it, like the enemy team getting third partied or something like that. Reworking it by removing the self res but making it a bubble that shields you from all directions until the HP is broken might sound too OP but I dont think it would be. Your team must still win the fight in order for it to be useful. But imo, I dont think all knockdown shields should work this way for the reasons I mentioned in my earlier posts.

@Peri_Longbow_plz Yeah, like I said; these scenarios when I argue that the knockdown shield is VERY valuable wont happen very often in causal with randoms. But they will happen often in ranked when playing with a 3 man premade squad which is reason enough not to remove the knockdown phase.

@Midnight9746 You are correct. I think knockdown shields should be reworked to be lets say like a full bubble in order to be effective these days.

@Peri_Longbow_plz As someone who spends a lot of time with their knockdown shield and being rezzed by teammates, I rarely see what you're describing. Are you pinging the enemy that is thirsting you?As long as you're reasonably close to your team, the knockdown shields keep you alive enough to be rezzed or even to shield your teammates. Of course, you should ideally have some cover and know how to turn.If you're talking about surviving 3 players all going against your shield, that's obviously not going to happen and it shouldn't. Also, if you're isolated away from your team or wide out in the open, it's pretty much to be expected you'll be killed. In fact, you can easily have a finisher performed on you, which ignores knockdown shields anyway.

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IMightKickAss
5 years ago
As someone who dies a lot, my KD phase are on the contrary pretty long, I usually am able to go behing our "lines",
or jump off a roof or hide.
Actually the problem is more being raised by mates when they are even at your side and not especially active,
than dying right away.
Still I am sometimes melted so bad that the KD phase doesn't happen (while mates are still standing), but that's not often.
As for the shield not being a bubble, I think this is purposedly.
And it allows people to shoot you if you decide to move while not taking them into account.
As for the gold shield, he should merely appear purple to hide its additional properties.
If I am not wrong, you already can't be executed when raising yourself, that's pretty good.
Maybe still offering a degree of armor while doing so could be good to avoid interruption?
Midnight9746
Hero+
5 years ago
@D3loFF yeah, and I'm unsure if its a bug, or a cheat - but players are shooting through my knockdown without breaking it (some run around, but I turn and block them, and they're somehow able to still hit me through the shield, like I hear it take damage, and then I take damage and the shield is still up), while some are instantly cracking purple/gold knockdowns way to quickly.
D3loFF
Rising Veteran
5 years ago
@Midnight9746 While when you have to shoot at even white shield it takes a ton of damage. I know the feeling as it happened to me many times - purple shield and they cut through it like butter.
OoShellshock
5 years ago
To die automatically? I disagree, would make the game a lot worse.
Peri_Longbow_pl
5 years ago
The amount of times I pretty much died instantly is hard to count anymore. Ever since the auto-revive of Lifeline was introduced, everyone makes sure that you stay down, even if it doesn't benefit them directly. In casual games at least, hardly anyone really protects you. Knockdown shields are too easily cheesed and you can bypass them so easily that it's not even fun anymore. I still activate my knockdown shield, but 9/10 times it's useless. Either people circle you and shoot you easily or - to rub a thick layer of salt into the wound - teabag you before they kill you.
And it continues to exist even in Arenas. You go down even over a small distance, all you hear when you go behind cover is Valkyrie jets, pathfinder grapple or Octane stim and before you know it: You're dead. That's how much people thirst for the kill nowadays.

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