Rework respawning..
Got a few ideas to help out with respawning your teammates, everybody would rather queue up again instead of respawn - i'm one of them. The reasons I quite are - I looted so hard and now lost all m...
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@reconzero Well then remove it, however, if that were the case the developers would not have put it in the game to begin with. Secondly, the devs keep adding things like "are you sure you wanna quit? You can be respawned!" and in loading screens "you aren't dead yet! Players have a chance to respawn you" etc etc. The game is designed to have a respawn feature, however, the current one is simply pointless and doesn't allow you to respawn, instead, you signal a "come kill me" beacon. Your team has a better chance of winning/surviving if they do not respawn you.
@SolitaryMassacre
I get why the dev put the mechanic in the game. I also get why they executed as they did, making if very difficult to recover from, or even survive, a late-game respawn. I guess I'd say that's the balance between allowing it in the first place and making sure it isn't a complete get-out-of-jail-free card.
When I said remove it, I realize that's not going to happen, and I understand that the reason it exists in the first place is to allow squads of friends to stick together from one match to the next. I'm a solo queuer so I don't need to stick with anyone, and largely prefer not to. I'm also that guy that will usually quit when downed for exactly the reason you said: "Your team has a better chance of winning/surviving if they do not respawn you." That and the fact that I refuse to let the guy who killed me once try and kill me again.
I get why the dev put the mechanic in the game. I also get why they executed as they did, making if very difficult to recover from, or even survive, a late-game respawn. I guess I'd say that's the balance between allowing it in the first place and making sure it isn't a complete get-out-of-jail-free card.
When I said remove it, I realize that's not going to happen, and I understand that the reason it exists in the first place is to allow squads of friends to stick together from one match to the next. I'm a solo queuer so I don't need to stick with anyone, and largely prefer not to. I'm also that guy that will usually quit when downed for exactly the reason you said: "Your team has a better chance of winning/surviving if they do not respawn you." That and the fact that I refuse to let the guy who killed me once try and kill me again.
- @reconzero
I would completely disagree that its a get out of jail free card. Its very pointless and many people quit before even trying the respawn.
I also disagree with the point of it being that friends stick together. it is so TEAMS stick together, however, its never done that way. Apex is all about sticking with your team, even if that team is a bunch of randos, you don't quit. Also, if you're a solo queuer, you shouldn't be having teams to respawn you.. you should immediately be killed.
The fact teams have a better chance of winning/surviving without respawning downed teammates is why the respawn system needs to be fixed, or removed. But its super unhelpful.
Lastly, I don't refuse to let the guy who killed me do it again, I come back with a vengeance, and if I have even a P2020, I may actually win.@SolitaryMassacre
I meant to imply that it WOULD BE a get-out-of-jail-free card IF it was made any easier. (I mean, imagine for a second you do everything it takes to kill a guy in this game, and 45 seconds later, having been silently respawned by his squad, he drops you with a p2020. You may feel as if that's an "all's fair" situation, but I would be angry and I feel like it would completely undermine the entire point of an elimination-style game type.)
I specifically said "friends" instead of "squads" because that was what I took from a dev post on the subject years ago. They don't give a rat's backside what a "squad" does, but they want friends who have queued together to be able to stay together over multiple matches. Making it easier for them to stay together means longer engagement and more money.
"The fact teams have a better chance of winning/surviving without respawning downed teammates is why the respawn system needs to be fixed, or removed. But its super unhelpful."
I believe the dev would tell you that this isn't true at all. The mechanic is meant to give the survivors something to do while the dead guy hangs on for another chance, no matter how poor of a chance it is. Again, it's a squad-sticks-together mechanic, not a get-a-scond-shot-at-victory mechanic.
" I don't refuse to let the guy who killed me do it again, I come back with a vengeance, and if I have even a P2020, I may actually win."
I admire your * and vinegar. And wish I had some too!- @reconzero I think you need to re-read my post.
There are 2 ways to rework the respawn method that I mentioned - one is silent. The other is loud with a p2020 scaled with the ring.
And if its a squad sticks together mechanic and people are leaving before the squad even has time to grab the banner, then its not working. When looked at why people leave, its because the second they get respawned, they will get killed again because they are helpless/useless. Its not working at all to keep squads together.
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