It's quite funny how every single season they say they have improved anti-cheat, smurfing issues etc. it's gettin worse... lvl 20 smurfs pretty much every ranked lobby plat at least. So many shady hackers don't recall what season had as many hackers as there is now and some of em' are so obvious they don't even try to hide it at all as well how we all know how they ban hackers handpickin after thousands of reports and then the hacker just make a new account, but if u dare to say s*it in game you are banned instantly hiswattson great example. Just maybe concentrate the real issues game has season after season.All the "great" ideas you have and put into game actually never improve gameplay as long as EA keeps makin' money they rly don't care bout' players.This game has become so boring lately I feel daltoosh so much when he is like how doo-doo this game has become and how boring it is nowdays.Smurfing issue will never be fixed as player cap looks better on paper even though most of them just havin several different accounts for sellin, hackin, boostin... etc.don't just take my word for it ; https://gamerant.com/apex-legends-cheat-problem-player-request/

Cheating has ruined online gaming, and if I wasn't the typical PC Gaming Geek, I would of left Apex long ago, but I do occassionally have some good games. Won one the other day, 6 kills as KL.But yes, cheating is a major mess, and I personally think, we will need a cloud service we play games through in the future, so that you can't add any cheats into your OS the way they work now on PC.It seems like, as long as you can install a game on a PC, then you can easily install cheats on the OS and this war like this will never end.Or PC gaming is going to need to come to an evolution of Tech, that if you have a cheat app on your OS, the game won't start with it, and this will have to be pretty flawless, so the coders can't code around it.

Do note that an increase in cheaters and smurfs doesn't equal to the fact that the anticheat or any of their systems aren't functioning well.If the total amount of players like this go up, it'll obviously become a bigger issue, no matter how great their detection is.Personally I barely see any cheaters, though of course, doesn't mean that there aren't any at all.Do hope some more breakthroughs will be made though! (Also note that Cheaters are banned both IP and HWID-wise, though sadly enough these can be circumvented, hence why they're not that effective)

@d3bugIT I feel like part of why EAC isn't working as well for Apex is because Epic Games owns EAC, so why would they let a BR competitor become "better" then Fortnite?I did play Fortnite again last year, (not as much since a lot has changed), but about 1/5 games, there seemed to be a cheater, but never the same cheater each time there was one in the match. In Apex, it feels like almost every game has a cheater, and more so cheater(s) that are a full squaded up together, and you'll often see the same cheater(s) in multiple matches across days, weeks, and sometimes even months still playing.In all honesty, Apex just needs a better anti-cheat and it might as well be a kernal level anti-cheat as Valorant doesn't seem to get a whole lot of cheaters. I'm not fully sure as I've only played about 4 matches and decided it wasn't the game for me.

yeah honestly i wouldn't care about some kernel anti cheat like vanguard that valorant has. I'm willing to sacrifice my privacy if it means less cheaters. Who cares about whatever possible malicious things a kernel anticheat would give them access too i doubt they would abuse your system intentionally anyways.

@d3bugIT well if u compare example fortnite they actually have workin anticheat system and u can see people banhammered mid game... EA just dont care thats the real issue...already have this technology (hardware ban)

SEASON 16 It's quite funny how EA improvements never work.

17 Replies

d3bugIT
3 years ago
Cheating has ruined online gaming, and if I wasn't the typical PC Gaming Geek, I would of left Apex long ago, but I do occassionally have some good games. Won one the other day, 6 kills as KL.
But yes, cheating is a major mess, and I personally think, we will need a cloud service we play games through in the future, so that you can't add any cheats into your OS the way they work now on PC.
It seems like, as long as you can install a game on a PC, then you can easily install cheats on the OS and this war like this will never end.
Or PC gaming is going to need to come to an evolution of Tech, that if you have a cheat app on your OS, the game won't start with it, and this will have to be pretty flawless, so the coders can't code around it.
MindTrick85
Rising Hotshot
3 years ago
@d3bugIT well if u compare example fortnite they actually have workin anticheat system and u can see people banhammered mid game... EA just dont care thats the real issue...

already have this technology (hardware ban)
XHelperZ
Hero+
3 years ago
Do note that an increase in cheaters and smurfs doesn't equal to the fact that the anticheat or any of their systems aren't functioning well.
If the total amount of players like this go up, it'll obviously become a bigger issue, no matter how great their detection is.
Personally I barely see any cheaters, though of course, doesn't mean that there aren't any at all.
Do hope some more breakthroughs will be made though!
(Also note that Cheaters are banned both IP and HWID-wise, though sadly enough these can be circumvented, hence why they're not that effective)
d3bugIT
3 years ago
@MindTrick85Fortnite also uses EAC, if you are talking about at a Software Level of dection.

It's my understanding there is also Server Side Detection too, along with the Reports someone submits, when someone submits a report they are looked at manually by someone to verify.

There is also Conor Ford that handles cheating too.

So the Cheating system isn't just EAC, it's several areas that I mentioned.

I really don't know if we can all honestly say they don't care, it's just not easy to deal with. I see people banned all the time in this game.
Awhoo_Thunder
3 years ago
@MindTrick85

Its all popular games nowadays.

Tarkov is minimum 1 cheater in every raid. They even make money cheating in EFT.
MindTrick85
Rising Hotshot
3 years ago
@stillkoy this is very true...
MindTrick85
Rising Hotshot
3 years ago
@XHelperZ this is not true... at all no IP bans in apex
XHelperZ
Hero+
3 years ago
@MindTrick85
Even if it were to be used, it would be useless as almost everything uses a dynamic IP now.
Midnight9746
Hero+
3 years ago
@d3bugIT I feel like part of why EAC isn't working as well for Apex is because Epic Games owns EAC, so why would they let a BR competitor become "better" then Fortnite?

I did play Fortnite again last year, (not as much since a lot has changed), but about 1/5 games, there seemed to be a cheater, but never the same cheater each time there was one in the match. In Apex, it feels like almost every game has a cheater, and more so cheater(s) that are a full squaded up together, and you'll often see the same cheater(s) in multiple matches across days, weeks, and sometimes even months still playing.

In all honesty, Apex just needs a better anti-cheat and it might as well be a kernal level anti-cheat as Valorant doesn't seem to get a whole lot of cheaters. I'm not fully sure as I've only played about 4 matches and decided it wasn't the game for me.
stillkoy
3 years ago
yeah honestly i wouldn't care about some kernel anti cheat like vanguard that valorant has. I'm willing to sacrifice my privacy if it means less cheaters. Who cares about whatever possible malicious things a kernel anticheat would give them access too i doubt they would abuse your system intentionally anyways.