Season 20 release is terrible!
Just freed up my whole summer. Can't even articulate how disappointing the changes to game play are.
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@bo3nv8maxnj6 Season so far seems fun, I've only been in Mixtape so far, but I've seen a few cheaters on PC using zero recoil scripts and aimbot cheats. One player's aimbot was so perfect, they were snapping to everyone instantly, like they didn't even turn to face the player, they were snappeed to looking at them, and was beaming with any gun at any range.
Yet, the anti-cheat just goes, "I don't see a cheater..."
Edited: Scratch that. I said it was good so far, then the next match, there was two players on the other team flat out DDOSing. Everytime they got close to anyone on the other team, that person they got close to lagged into infinity and beyond, and even watching the death recap where it shows both of them kill me, shows that even the game didn't know what happened. It went from them pointing a gun off to the side of my hitbox, to me dying after a second or two of the kill cam freezing.
Once again, we need a better anti-cheat and this season won't last long if the cheating can't get under any kind of control.
@Midnight9746 You would hate to see my recoil control after 8k hours in the game. Some of us just have learned how to control the recoil perfectly.
@E9ine_ACI'm just not feeling it so far with S20. Not S14 Hunted bad, but pretty bad.
The changes seem to benefit better players and premades over new players, lesser skilled players, & solo queue players. For me, it makes the issues with matchmaking and anti cheat even worse. These players need a shield advantage to level the playing field in most matches and now that element of RNG is gone. Couple that with a more complicated shield upgrade and perk system to learn and all these teams are at a further disadvantage.
My experience as a solidly average solo queue player so far this season has been pretty horrible. The game is skewing even more towards pros and sweats and away from the average player, IMO. I just can't imagine how or why a brand new Apex player would stick around at this point.100% there with you. Been playing since launch, but solidly average and odd playing times mean I’m stuck playing solo. It’s been bad in the past, but this is a whole new level of impossible. Win rate had consistently been 5%-6% every season, now it’s barley over 1%!!! Forget about k/d/r. Honestly don’t know why I’m still playing. Don’t know if cheating is out of control or just a new sadistic matchmaking. Whatever it is, it’s like they are trying to force a particular cohort of players (average, solo) to quit.
This is me, Some combo of matchmaking, changes to the game and player mindset but season 20 has been a miserable experience. I don't mind the changes in a vacuum but they seem to make the other issues stand out even more.
This is coming from someone who's played since day 1 and for the most part thought matchmaking complaints were overblown until now. Apex has been my main game for 5 years and very often while solo queing. Lately I have next to no interest to log in and know it'll be the same BS in one form or another and maybe get 1 decent match out 10-15. And when I do squad up with even 1 other person suddenly every other squad is a master+ 3 stack. I don't know what they did to their matchmaking this season but I'll probably be done with this game if it doesnt sort itself out soon.
@E9ine_AC Players like you still have a bit of a movement to the gun, so its a bit easier to tell that you're controlling it. This guy had zero movement. The gun was perfectly still and they were snapping to other players in all directions instantly.
They weren't flicking the gun or anything like that, they were automatically locking onto players. It became obvious when in one of the kill feeds, I saw them kill a player, then they snapped to me while I was behind a wall and tracked me perfectly, shooting a moment later when I came out from cover.
They were a Pathfinder and the only one who was near me at the time, from what I can tell.
Guns like the R-301 and Flatline, I don't question the recoil as much when I see players barely having any, but guns like the R-99, I question when they can shoot at any distance and not miss a single shot, especially when they're snapping to players so quickly, that there's no way it was humanly possible.
Oh look a paid for response by ea and respawn. No one goes on to a forum post about how good thier recoil is to a complaint about a game. Especially when the post is about issues with the promises game quality fix patch. This post is literally titled. season 20 release is terrible and @Midnight9746 posts this.
This season was good for a day. First day zero problems with the game no server issues ran into very little hackers. Then they got their player base up and must have secretly patched in engagement based match making again. I have faced the numbe r9 pred last season in silver when my team mates literally had never played the game before. That is exactly what used to happen. I get, just like before 19 games with players who do no understand the game and then i get 1 game with a near or literal pro on my team. WELCOME TO BULL * APEX AND respawn/ea rigging match making for engagement. First day all the way till almost gold three I had a great game to play. Now constant random fps drops, dead slides bullets not registering left and right with people sitting still aiming elsewhere.
Just remember folks every time someone like @midnight9746 over here posts ignore it, cause its fake. You post a complaint and they post a distraction about how good the game is or how its your fault not the company classic pr backlash against negative feedback.
Companies pay to hush any kind of negative feed back cause there is no regulation on corporations anymore.
"Just freed up my whole summer. Can't even articulate how disappointing the changes to game play are." - @bo3nv8maxnj6
They said the season was terrible with the changes to the gameplay, but didn't fully go into details to explain why they felt that way. That leaves room for others to say why they feel like it either got better or got worst.
"You post a complaint and they post a distraction about how good the game is or how its your fault not the company classic pr backlash against negative feedback." - @Dakyren1
You're making it sound like I'm saying there's no problems with the game. There's TONS of problems with the game. I'm saying its better than it was from what I'm seeing, but its not perfect or the best that it could be. Not to mention that I never had told anyone that the problem is them when it comes down to the issues that they're having. The most I do is state what I've experienced myself.You do realize that I've complained about no audio, awful servers, cheaters, smurfs, bot teammates, bad rank seasons, etc. for a long time now, right? I'm not going "the game is fantastic" like a payed person. In fact, no one asked for my opinion, and I have been told before that I'm quite critical of the game by an EA Fourm Admin, (I won't call them out, but its true).
I'm saying the game is better in the matches I'm put in, but its NOT the best that it could be and other players do have different gameplay experiences than I do, which may be way worse or even better than mine. S20 is a huge change but its not a one fix for all of the game's problems. If we all stay quiet or listen to one voice, we won't ever see the overall picture and be able to have the problem get addressed for the whole playerbase. I rather things get fixed for everyone, rather than a small part of the community.
I still deal with cheaters, smurfs, and bots. Was this fixed with S20?
- No, I still see them frequently, mainly console players abusing aim assist with things such as strikepacks.
I still deal with little or no audio. Was this fixed with S20?- No, I still, and many others, have little to no audio. The fact that an Octane can stim up behind you and empty a full R-99 clip with no audio says how awful the audio is, and playing on the new Thunderdome map? Good luck hearing anyone over the crowd, I sure can't.
Servers are still 20hz. Are they any better in S20, such has being a higher hz like 60hz??
- No, not that I'm aware of. A few have said they're better, but I'm not quite seeing that. https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Feedback/Servers-Are-Super-Laggy/m-p/13495876#M111538
"No one goes on to a forum post about how good thier recoil is to a complaint about a game." - @Dakyren1
Do you also realize that @E9ine_AC was the one who said they had good recoil, not me. https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Feedback/Season-20-release-is-terrible/m-p/13486529/highlight/true#M111408 I essentially had said that I was seeing players using no recoil, like a cheat or an exploit of the aim assist, (which strikepacks, xim, chronus zen, etc. are technically an exploit to the aim assist).
I've also told @Palette24carats that Titanfall 2 was on sale when they had asked if there's other games made by the former Respawn dev team, as Apex was still having issues that they weren't liking.
https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Feedback/Season-20-release-is-terrible/m-p/13485556/highlight/true#M111389
"These devs since season 13 have no clue what they're doing. Where are the old devs?" @Palette24carats
"@Palette24carats I've heard that all the "old" devs had left the development team." - @Midnight9746
"@Midnight9746 Right, what games are they developing right now I need another game lol" - @Palette24carats
To the part about "Companies pay to hush any kind of negative feed back cause there is no regulation on corporations anymore." - @Dakyren1 Have you not seen any of the threads on the fourms?
Players are posting problems with the game and submitting new complaints daily, if not, weekly. Here's an issue about audio: https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Feedback/Audio-is-worse-in-s20/m-p/13497546#M111548 and here's an issue about how a player feels like to have a good time in Apex, there must be some sort of DLC that they don't have. It sounds like a joke to me with how its phrased, but they're not wrong about the issues that they've pointed out: https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Feedback/Secret-Store/m-p/13499517#M111569
As for the matchmaking, dead slides, and other problems you've mentioned, honestly a lot of those are issues with the server, and right now in ranked, EVERYONE's rank was reset to Rookie IV, so if you see a bunch of preds in your lobby, right now they are still "around your rank". The only advice I could give you, isn't a "get better", but a "give it a few weeks", so by then, the preds would be in higher ranked lobbies, and you should be left with anyone left behind in the ranks.
Respawn isn't worrying about the matchmaking for ranked just yet as its still the start of the season, and they're waiting for everyone to spread out in the ranks before going, "that was awful", or "that's a better system, lets keep at it!"
I've also heard that the next gen update is pretty bad. I got a Switch as well, but its not one of the ones that supports the next gen update, so I can't say if its good or bad personally. https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Feedback/Xbox-series-s-performance-mode-is-a-joke/m-p/13499381#M111566Regardless of where anyone stands, I hope to see improvements to the game, such as to the audio, servers, matchmaking, anti-cheat, and less collection events centered around recolors, especially of heirlooms.
Despite how much fun the Final Fantasy event was for me, (even though the Buster Sword was a Busted Sword as it was too strong), I hope we never see that kind of cosmetic store again, especially when it was like $500 for a deathbox, or more if you were in a country that bans the buying of packs, because it costed those players even more to get the deathbox. Which they had to get if they wanted the Buster Sword heirloom, as that was removed out of the store itself, and put into the pack opening tracker as the last reward alongside the deathbox.
This event also angered a lot of players because after EA/Respawn had released the recolor mythic hierloom Peacekeeper, (Shown below), they had said that they would never do something like that again. Well, the Final Fantasy event was basically "something like that again".
Not to mention, its a recolor of S2's battle pass gun skins for level 100 and 110.
TLDR:
Is Apex perfect?
- No, no game is. This update changed a lot for everyone. You either love it or hate it. I remember posting a while back, saying, "please don't add perks", but now that we have perks, it seems alright, for now at least. Anyone have any thoughts on that yet? Lifeline's self-revive is pretty good.
Did Apex get better?
- Somewhat, depends on who you ask. Some are having a better time, some are not, while others are having a mix of good and bad. What exactly are we liking? What are we not liking?
Does Apex still have issues, balancing problems, and other things to look into or consider?
- Yes, I would say that it does still have issues, balancing problems, and things to look into and consider. I have gone days before where I didn't pick up or think about playing Apex. The problems kept piling up, and I considered uninstalling the game many times.
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