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@HLNorsemane
Shoot just think of this. 3rd party devices named XIM / Cronusmax let consoles and/or PC play with a M&K. Note this M&K is not a 1 for 1.
These devices allow users to load scripts and/or macros on to the device. The scripts can range in the terms of reduced recoil for a set weapon. You can set it to repeat your left trigger or just spam your aim as a macro.
Take COD Warzone. Has open support for mouse & keyboard on consoles. No need for any devices. Yet XIM has on their YouTube a link for scripts for aim repeat (aim lock macro) and reduced recoil for set weapons. Ya let that sink in. Some of their COD script videos get 200K views a week.
So if you ever thought there was more cheating on PC, think again. Consoles now have a market for people selling scripts just fro these devices lol. Gaming right now is a nighmare.
- 6 years ago
ALL third party devices are cheating and I do mean ALL. The mouse and keyboard or straight controllers are the only thing you should be allowed to play with. If it does more than a playstation controller you are cheating like a wuss.
I don't play PC so as to whether or not you can actually tell when someone is using a controller, i.e. some symbol next a enemy name, or are you just getting upset and blaming controllers cause you suck with them? How can you tell? Getting lazered in the face isn't proof. Mouse and keyboard has been doing that crap for ...well.....since it came out. I do however play both inputs with fornite and man does mouse and keyboard have an advantage. Its beyond not fair. When I'm using a M&K it soooooooooo much easier to lazer people in the face. Aim assist or not.
- Anonymous6 years ago
@Luxxtenebri
"I don't play PC so as to whether or not you can actually tell when someone is using a controller, i.e. some symbol next a enemy name, or are you just getting upset and blaming controllers cause you suck with them? How can you tell?"
You use both and can't tell the difference? What i do is while i'm watching somoene, i look up their name on Twitch and see their past videos.
"Getting lazered in the face isn't proof. Mouse and keyboard has been doing that crap for ...well.....since it came out."
This topic is not for bised opinions on what is better, this is only about aim assist. I'm not biased towards a device or someones personal opinion on what they would like to use. I just don't think someone with aim assist should get the feature while their aiming on someone who doesn't have it enabled and/or can't get it. - 6 years ago@Luxxtenebri It is easy to tell when someone is using a controller from their movement when spectating them. Controllers have joysticks for X and Y axis and when looking around, controller players rarely use both at the same time so what you see usually is perfectly straight back and forth horizontal movements and vertical movements. To add to that, the way you die usually comes with some odd lag behavior. This most likely stems from the how the aim assist interacts with the game.
- 6 years ago
@Popa2capsThere is always gonna be people who needs to turn to cheats. And quite frankly, if you are a controller player on PC then as far as I am concerned you are a cheater xD Nobody bought a PC so they could play games using a controller. Additionally, nobody would use a controller if there was no AA on PC. Nobody would also use a controller on PC if M&K was also given AA.
I mean, if you took a M&K noob and set him up against a controller noob, who would win? Obviously controller would win due to M&K missing every dang shot cause of failing recoil control and heavily lacking precision. AA literally controls recoil for the user so stupidly well as well as assisting handily with tracking. This is a fact. Controller players on PC are an absolute joke. And controller players defending AA on PC are a bigger joke. We all know to achieve a truly leveled playfield everyone needs to be limited to the same input. Consoles has controllers, PC has M&K, don't mix it up, problem solved and leveled playfield maintained.- Anonymous6 years ago
@HLNorsemane
I'm going to disagree with you on everything you just stated. One being PC means personal computer, not you're going to use just one device. Second, controllers are not cheating lol. You're like the most biased person i've seen on the forums in awhile.
I bought and built my PC for creating music. Someone else could have bought one for some other creative idea or really anything. You also seems to have overlooked my topic. It's 100% on the topic of aim assist, not all controller users. I know people are out there that play with aim assist off.
Also you do know X and Y axis is mostly always used on an analog stick, right? Just aiming up and to the left is just that o.0. The more i think about it, an analog stick has more dimensions than a mouse sensor. Thumb stick click could be called Z axis.
Like i stated above, this topic is just about aim assist, i have no issues with controller users directly, because i am one... sometimes lol. I understand what aim assist does, but i can turn it off and do okay. The issue is Apex PC is mostly now controller user. It seems like everyone is a beam and the devs need to look into it.- 6 years ago@Popa2caps Of course controllers are cheating. There is a big fat reason why you see people taking their controller out of their console to use it on the PC for playing Apex. There are plenty of youtube videos now with names such as "Is your aim with mouse and keyboard average or worse? Consider using a controller to do better"
That right there is pretty screwed up. No matter how you spin it, if you have software that ASSISTS you in such a manner that it is no longer all you and your skill doing all the work, then yes, you are cheating. I guess you find it fair game as well that when doing suppleness testing (how high you can jump) to use a trampoline for that extra ASSISTED bounce for that added altitude. It is the same freaking thing.
Also what does it matter that you bought your PC for music? We are talking about GAMING.
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