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5 years ago

Stop favoring controller players.

There's nothing worse than playing a competitive game in a lobby full of controller players with god like aim assist. You need to nerf it before it turns into a Fortnite 2.0 where you lose all the co...

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sireladio

Rising Adventurer

5 years ago

@E9ine_AC Wait you mean to tell me people who use scripts aint pros?

Lets ignore the fact most pc players have advanced movement and can use scripts easily. Lets not forget even bhop on pc is as simple as flicking a mouse wheel but on console requires inhuman timing.

I just love how this is even a debate to people. If console/controller was so powerful every pro would use it. The fact that you dony see pro players using controller and many ex high level controller players who had to switch to mouse and keyboard to stay at that level.

Aim assist isnt some amazing cheat. It just slows your aim slightly when you are aiming at some one or pass some one. It doesnt snap onto targets and if you dont have good aim doesnt magically compensate.
This isnt fortnite. Aim assist on apex is minimal and honestly if you turn it off and practice without it you tend to do better as aim assist in apex often tends to hurt higher level players

E9ine_AC

Hero+

5 years ago

@sireladio No scripts they use a device that plugs directly into the pc or console. Which a lot have plug and play already set settings. To remove recoil to grant rapid fire to grant aim assist to players who should not see it.

I think you fail to understand aim assist should NEVER be on pc with mouse and keyboard. Aim assist also rumored to be 40% on pc and 60% if on console. This has been a topic spoken on a lot now. So to say its minimal is laughable. I suggest doing your home work before trying belittle people thinking you know more or better.

sireladio
Rising Adventurer
5 years ago
@E9ine_AC You are talking about something like a Xim. This is a third party piece of item made specifically to dupe a console or pc into thinking your using a controller.

What you fail to understand is how a xim works. Firstly it reduces control with a mouse and keyboard as you are restricted to movement of a controller as that is all the item can process.

Second is there is no recoil reduction on console unless you are using settings on a xim or scripts to cheat.

What the issue is you are trying to use a small percentage of people cheating and yes that is what it is cheating. As an excuse to why aim assist shouldn't exist.

Your whole ideology is flawed and based on a specific part of the player base while ignoring the other 99%. To balance a game properly you have to use the worst players and the best and find the middle ground. Making a game work only for the best of the best kills a game we seen this in overwatch. Making a game just for the worst is also bad .

So please do your own research as you obviously using the pc cry baby section to do yours and not any real research.

Keep crying because a controller player can slap you in game because your to egotistical to learn from your mistakes.
- E9ine_AC
  Hero+
  5 years ago
  @sireladio
  
  https://community.xim.tech/index.php?topic=71919.30#:~:text=Besides%2C%20all%20RF%20does%20is,place%20to%20achieve%20the%20same.
  
  How to ZERO or reduce recoil. From Ximforums them self. Do not try to tell me to do my own research. I been coding and programming for very very long time now. I know exactly what these do. They even have anti recoil videos all over youtube for xim.... But you seem to know it all and have done zero home work your self.
  
  No one is crying here we are allowed to voice our opinions without you thinking you are better then someone. I dont need to learn from my mistake i have quite a lot games under my belt nor am i worried about anyone.
  
  Try to explain things without being a tool it may help you in long run and out side the video gaming world.
  - sireladio
    Rising Adventurer
    5 years ago
    @E9ine_ACSo your whole arguement against aim assist is based on a tool being used by maybe 1% of people if even that.
    
    See this is the exact reason we class it as crying as your opinion is based on an opinion not reality.
    
    Let us ignore xim as that is a small percentage that is no different from cheating. Aim assist however isnt part of this so lets base this arguement on that.
    
    The reason you want to push the xim arguemwnt so much as this is the only way you can show any evidence of an advantage with controller. Well not controller as most xim players use a mouse and keyboard pretending to be a controller so again it invalidates your arguement.
    
    If aim assist was so over powered every pro would be using a controller. They are not and no pro player is going to sit here and side with you.
    
    Using something that amounts to cheating as an excuse to why something is broken is ridiculous. So we should ban MnK as you can run scripts, cheats, and glitch easier. Your whole argument just has nothing to stand on.
    
    So actually do your research ans show evidence that aim assist in apex legends gives an unfair advantage when compares to mouse and keyboard using nothing but data based on legit players.
    
    Wait you cant because the data doesn't agree with you