Stop favoring controller players.
There's nothing worse than playing a competitive game in a lobby full of controller players with god like aim assist. You need to nerf it before it turns into a Fortnite 2.0 where you lose all the co...
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@E9ine_AC Forum shows about 0.0001% player base complaining so it doesnt really show im wrong.
Now to your stats. What stats are we talking about?
Are we talking about recoil or are we talking abouy overall accuracy?
When you refuse to take into account you can easily control recoil on pc but on a console its near impossible without being top tier.
When you refuse to take into account
move while looting
armor swap in .5 seconds
air strafe
zipline juggle
slide jump easily
bhop around the map
play on a sens 5x higher
track easier
Flick shot
wall bounce
Then you are honestly delusional if you think controller has an advantage. If you think its so powerful use it. But you wont do that because you all know MnK is better
Now to your stats. What stats are we talking about?
Are we talking about recoil or are we talking abouy overall accuracy?
When you refuse to take into account you can easily control recoil on pc but on a console its near impossible without being top tier.
When you refuse to take into account
move while looting
armor swap in .5 seconds
air strafe
zipline juggle
slide jump easily
bhop around the map
play on a sens 5x higher
track easier
Flick shot
wall bounce
Then you are honestly delusional if you think controller has an advantage. If you think its so powerful use it. But you wont do that because you all know MnK is better
@sireladio Everything you just named pc can do better i literally watch Daltoosh and SoarKobi do every single thing you just named on controller with ease.
You saying these controller users are not top tier? Daltoosh is top 50 in the world pred on controller. Doing everything us pc users can other then minor strafing while looting that for what ever reason controller players think is game changing. I literally offers nothing to us on pc. You are still are easily shot its literally minimal strafing.
The armor swap and box looting i can understand there is a huge difference there but again i watch pros with controller do it super fast as if it is not hard at all.
Their flick shots are just as insane if not better due to aim assist. Wall jumps i watch them do every single day. Zipline juggle also they do this. Almost everything you named is done on pc and controller other then very fasting looting methods.
I am talking about 3rd devices that have to assist players to be where they are now. While us who play legit just sit back and wonder how and why these devices are allowed. We just want fair game play. Playing against controller is perfectly fine. But when you can plug in a flash drive and grant mouse and keyboard aim assist then thats where my problem is. Aim assist it self bothers me none. Its players who abuse a device to grant something the hardware would not or should not see.
You saying these controller users are not top tier? Daltoosh is top 50 in the world pred on controller. Doing everything us pc users can other then minor strafing while looting that for what ever reason controller players think is game changing. I literally offers nothing to us on pc. You are still are easily shot its literally minimal strafing.
The armor swap and box looting i can understand there is a huge difference there but again i watch pros with controller do it super fast as if it is not hard at all.
Their flick shots are just as insane if not better due to aim assist. Wall jumps i watch them do every single day. Zipline juggle also they do this. Almost everything you named is done on pc and controller other then very fasting looting methods.
I am talking about 3rd devices that have to assist players to be where they are now. While us who play legit just sit back and wonder how and why these devices are allowed. We just want fair game play. Playing against controller is perfectly fine. But when you can plug in a flash drive and grant mouse and keyboard aim assist then thats where my problem is. Aim assist it self bothers me none. Its players who abuse a device to grant something the hardware would not or should not see.
- @E9ine_AC its actually funny how you used Daltoosh. Considering he is the one that posted most of them items you obviously delusional
https://twitter.com/daltoosh/status/1228060940425453573?s=20
Atleast if you going to try and talk do so with out using the exact guy who I quoted and clearly doesnt agree with you.
Actually so funny when you fall straight into a lie that can easily be debunked.
Now to this point of XIM or third party tools.
You can not based an opinion on a small percentage of cheaters. It just doesnt work and makes no sense. Otherwise we need to remove MnK as there are 1000000s of them using scripts.
Finally.
As stated I agree people who use third party tools to gain any advantage should be banned as cheating. But no one is disagreeing with you on that.
This thread was a complaint about controller players being given an advantage and being favoured. You have taken it off that point into a thread about cheaters.
If we go back to the main topic like I have pushed since the start. A legit controller player has NO advantage over MnK player @sireladioWell Strike Packs are indeed being allowed. Rapid Fire Recoil reduction or removal latest strike pack packages even claim they can do every one of these things. I believe this is where most the complaints for controllers comes from. The device being sold clearly states all the mods it adds. Me personally i dont care i just dont want to see aim assist on mouse and keyboard.
This thread is a joke, mouse and key players have advanced movement techniques, loot box strafing, far better aim at mid-long range, faster response time, and many other advantages while the only advantage on a controller is close range and even then thats mainly with smgs like the R-99 and Volt, somedays I log on and I do great but most of the time I mag an entire clip and only hit 1-2 bullets if im lucky XD but thats just me somedays I just wake up and can’t play the game like today Im playing rogue company for the xmas event and i cant even get a single kill when I usually get 5-10 with no problem aim assist isn’t the issue because it still requires alot of player imput to hit your shots, counter recoils, etc
This is coming from a pc controller player with 40% aim assist rather than the 60% aim assist for console players, ive played for about 2500+ hours between origin and steam. i do admit somedays if I go into the firing range and practice awhile before going into pubs the aim assist feels strong because I practiced before hand but just logging on and going into pubs without practicing will just result in death after death and loss after loss until either I start trying to play like a sweat or get decent randoms for the dub aim assist is not the same as aimbot
@sireladio I want to agree with you but you're coming off way too aggressive. This is basically a fight making it too hard to focus on tge points made.
- @FaIIenAngeI777 Controller players don't know how their aim assist works, the crosshair tries to stay on target (aim assist code: Pc_magnet, ads_pull) that mechanic gives a lot of accuracy to controller players, have 0ms response to enemies movement, so on controller you don't need to predict movement if someone is straifing, another thing that you aren't considering is that above 90% of the fights are at close range, you just don't kill everyone at mid and long range, with all that in mind, controller will have the advantage the majority of the time, moving while looting is completely secondary, and try to use it like an argument its a joke, movement on controller its almost as good as M/K if you're good, so your "advantages" are almost useless because you all are forgetting that this is a FPS, and wins the one with better aim.
@audiofilomx‘’Controller players don’t know how their aim assist works’’ right from the start you are spitting out nonsence...
The problem isn’t the controller players (who play with a controller every single day) its the mouse and keyboard players who have absolutely no idea how a controller works and cries out that its aimbot, most of yall havn’t used a controller on apex legends a day in your life and know absolutely nothing... I believe I know how my aim assist works considering Ive played since season 1
It dosn’t automatically follow strafe patterns for you... this isn’t grand theft auto 5 or FarCry where controllers literally have aimbot... on apex legends and other games like fortnite,rogue company,warzone, etc you actually have to try and aim with the controller it doesn’t just magically do it all for you
I see what your saying about close range early and late game but on Olympus especially most gunfights are mid-long range and Im constantly getting sniped and no scoped by mnk players and can’t really do much to fight back because I can’t snipe to save my life with joysticks but ive played on mouse and keyboard a few times and its so much easier to hit those precise shots with a sniper while on a controller its so hard to get that perfect sensitivity its always too far or not enough atleast in my case... I can watch backoffmyjankz snipe constantly lol- @FaIIenAngeI777 I played on controller since i was a kid, i used to play on xbox then switch to PC 2 years ago, apex 's aim assist is insane, you can't feel it anymore because you're so use to it, try to play without it, then turn it on again, you will feel how pulls your aim towards enemies and how reacts to their movement, it's not just a simple slowdown, if it was just that, m/k players shouldn't have any problems, because we should do just an insane straifing and that would totally mess with the sticks because of their limited accuracy, but no, even if you're straifing so hard, you will be lasered with perfect aim, even top 500 m/k players will miss some shots if the enemy is moving so fast, above average controller players don't miss. And if a "just fine" controller player can match and even surpass the aim of a top 500 with half the effort, it's a problem.
@audiofilomx You could be right about controller players being too used to aim assist to notice it but the rest of your statement is what makes controller players dismiss you.
We've gone up against other controller players and there were MANY missed shots so we have no clue what you're talking about. It's easier for us to fight close ranged than at a distance but most of us dont magically land every shot even with aim assist.
- @Zamaha400 everyone have their own servers because of SBMM, i play on PC So only controller players with a lot of confidence join the crossplay experience, and i have a K/D between 3 and 4 every season[master/pred for 2 seasons], so the quality of controller players on my lobbies is above the average, all of them are between level 50 to 300, not even lvl500, but all of them will one clip you, or land above 150+ like nothing very very consistently, not even top m/k players are that hard to deal with, my pubs are harder than my pred/master ranks, only because above half the lobby is filled with controller players.
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