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Seasoned Adventurer

6 years ago

STOP NERFING WRAITH

3 times, more than any other legend in the past 2 seasons of apex, wraith has been nerfed. This needs to change. By no means is she overpowered and she was by no means overpowered before the nerfs. I...

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Kuromukuroo

5 years ago

@Zamaha400 Like Lifeline or bloodhound... stop repeat this BS.
The truth is that good players did not complain about her hitbox.
Smaller legends shouldn't be same difficult to hit as bigger.
Legends have diferent size diferent tactic or ultimate - something for something.
The truth is good player never complain like kids - they learn how to win against something dificault and practice.
I only read coments where people complain about they should nerf that, nerf something else, simply nerf everything with what i`m totaly sh**.

Zamaha400

5 years ago

@Kuromukuroo Bad players complain about everything whether its broken or not. That truth doesn't mean you can ignore complaints. Wraith being smaller than every other Legend while moving the same distance would logically make her more difficult to hit. Whether that's balanced by her abilities being "weaker" in comparison to bigger Legends I'm not sure but she was harder to hit.

Kuromukuroo
5 years ago
@Zamaha400 Of course, she was more difficult to hit than Lifeline (almost the same size) or Octane on Q.
Like Gibby its harder to kill at long distance.
As i saiid its a part of a game - something for something, tactical for size or ultimate - every legends is diferent in other way.
Wraith is beging nerfed all the time not because she is op in game (i dont say she wasnt at the start).
Shes nerferd because people without skills complain about they can't hit her - instead of learning to aim or playing better.
Becaus devs want more money for skins on other legends - so they need to change her pick rate.
Her hitbox wasn`t any problem at all and this nerf was unnececery, so stop justify that.
This attempt to justify a bad decision is even worse than complaining for no reason.
Zamaha400
5 years ago
@Kuromukuroo I wish I could check them for myself but I've heard that Wraith was top of the list for a number of different stats, at all levels, for every season until now. Theoretically you can balance Legends despite different sizes but if she truly dominated at every level for multiple seasons then she wasn't balanced. Yeah scrubs were crying about her like they'll whine about anything but that doesn't mean she was or wasn't OP. I don't care about their complaints and honestly challenge anything I find questionable.
If a character requires a HIGHER level of skill to beat than any other then that's a major problem unless they have a massive weakness to balance it out. I don't need better aim to take on a Caustic or Bloodhound but I do against a Wraith? I'd be fine with that if her abilities were absolute crap but they weren't.
To me the simplest way of settling this would be seeing if she had a higher encounter win rate or whatever else the devs claimed but I don't know how to find those stats.
Sueidle
5 years ago
Well in all honesty wraith abilyits are week at moment. Pasive is okish. Nothing to writhe home about but ok. Tactical is prolonged dead sentence when uused defensivly and offensivly you can adcance inexpirienced player but he realy need to be blind not to see blue trail you leave vehind. Ulty is ok. Beter in premlade Group sucks ar randoms. All in all at this moment i culd say onley Loba have more worth less skillset in game.