The game is too slow
I know they already made the circle come in quicker, but it still feels too slow.valorant games can take an hour, yet i feel less bored playing it, since rounds last minutes and you always need to be...
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@reconzero You are greatly overexaggerating how this would affect where you land. People have already tested that walking across kings canyon takes 7 minutes. Also dropping hot is does not magically make you unable to loot, you can just leave the area after you're done being there or survive the chaos. I feel like you're playing this game too slow. Even before bin resets, i didn't feel like end game loot was bad and i dont mind maxing out the last players, i think its cool.
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Walking across King's takes seven minutes. Assuming you don't meet any enemies in a bad or bottlenecked place, have to go through multiple POIs, or that your squadmates won't sabotage you by insisting on a fight they can't win in the spot farthest from the next circle. You now also have the possibility of enemies on every side, not just in front of you. Did I say "possibility?" I meant "probability." Oh, and add however much time you might need for looting. Unless your loot just lays itself out on your path. I can loot that way, but my squadmates never can. They either hit one building and then rush to a fight, or they hit every single bin they know of even if it means getting singed by the ring and coming into the circle in the middle of a four squad pile up.
I get it. You like a fast paced game. And I think an argument could be made in their favor if you were only talking about higher skilled lobbies. But none of these propositions are an over-exaggeration. You may or may not recall the faster ring timers of season... 14? But they were fast. I can't recall if we got to your target time of 15 minutes, but if not it was very close. People were quitting matches left and right based on nothing more than their drop plus the first ring. It was never that you couldn't make it. It was that you had to go through two engagements on the way with no time to loot as you sprinted across the map. It was pointless. I don't mind getting beat by a guy who has a positional advantage or better aim, but getting beat because I can't engage because I have two place-holder weapons and NO ammunition? That was why people quit. That was why the dev backed off the whole idea.
Walking across King's takes seven minutes. Assuming you don't meet any enemies in a bad or bottlenecked place, have to go through multiple POIs, or that your squadmates won't sabotage you by insisting on a fight they can't win in the spot farthest from the next circle. You now also have the possibility of enemies on every side, not just in front of you. Did I say "possibility?" I meant "probability." Oh, and add however much time you might need for looting. Unless your loot just lays itself out on your path. I can loot that way, but my squadmates never can. They either hit one building and then rush to a fight, or they hit every single bin they know of even if it means getting singed by the ring and coming into the circle in the middle of a four squad pile up.
I get it. You like a fast paced game. And I think an argument could be made in their favor if you were only talking about higher skilled lobbies. But none of these propositions are an over-exaggeration. You may or may not recall the faster ring timers of season... 14? But they were fast. I can't recall if we got to your target time of 15 minutes, but if not it was very close. People were quitting matches left and right based on nothing more than their drop plus the first ring. It was never that you couldn't make it. It was that you had to go through two engagements on the way with no time to loot as you sprinted across the map. It was pointless. I don't mind getting beat by a guy who has a positional advantage or better aim, but getting beat because I can't engage because I have two place-holder weapons and NO ammunition? That was why people quit. That was why the dev backed off the whole idea.
@reconzero
I'd say the best game would have 10 rings.
That would give you plenty of time to move, and you wouldn't be guaranteed death in almost every first ring.
You could look for easter eggs, make sure you got all the loot and attachments from the area that you need, mark locations of extra stuff you might need later, fortify if you can, etc.
@BETELX6Games are always about art, not about killing your playerbase as often as possible. Art isn't just design, but story. Most players want the lore. Games like this do lore via easter eggs. Look around the map for lore bits. Little nessies and whatnot.
Have you ever picked up a nessie from Antenna on Storm Point? Have you ever won with a nessie in your inventory? You should try it sometime.
I hate when I win due to the ring. I've had a few matches where the ring came in so fast that the entire lobby died except for my squad, who was in the ring from landing. We set up and never saw anyone. They all got trapped on the other side of the mountain and we won by default, because the ring eliminated everyone.
And that was BEFORE the timer got reduced.
Although my latest matches have wound up being the ring's on the opposite side of the map. Sorry guys, no time to loot. We're gonna get killed by the ring. As we sprint as fast as we can, a couple pick up a gun or a grenade, but we only get halfway to the ring and we're already engulfed, burned, and out of the 3 stacks of syringes and 2 stacks of medpacks and pheonix kit we picked up along the way.
Seriously. If you land on the edge, and the ring spawns on the other side of the map, you're guaranteed to die. Very poor ring mechanics.
It moves faster than skydive speeds. It moves faster than a trident.
There need to be more rings so the ring isn't instantly killing everyone in the first ring. It should never move faster than people can move on a map. In most cases, that means sprinting. In some cases, that means skydive or trident speed. The ring should always be slower than skydive, never outpacing it. Game's no fun when you're always being eaten by the ring.@Zulkiers If you like game art so much, I'm surprised you aren't a single-player-game focused person where art is the objective. Of all my years in Apex and playing with friends we never cared about lore or easter eggs, we just wanted a cool overwatch battle royal session. Art is cool as there's some single and multiplayer games i play because i love the lore, concept, or music, but Apex isn't one. it's just a neat BR i want to play competitively, but map art and lore don't sell skins and battle passes, cosmetic creativity and enjoyable gameplay do like with every competitive multiplayer game story isn't advertised.The story and secrets is for people who want to go deep like an ice berg video. Titan Fall is a great game and some Apex players wanted a Titan Fall 3 over playing Apex, but amazing lore isn't going to sell Titan Fall, cool COD/big robot battling gaming will. Enjoying lore/art in multiplayer shooters has always been a niche to people who want some fun.
Iv'e only had a few games from a ring win, and it's just funny to me. I don't think I've even lost to the final squad from the ring. Iv'e abandoned my teammates so the ring doesn't kill me. It's just something you must obey or lose and I've never played the game and wished the ring was weaker so i could loot, i just played the game fast and tried to always know where i want to go on the map.
- @BETELX6 I came from Titanfall 2. This is an expansion in the Titanfall universe. Thus, lore is required. If it wasn't related to Titanfall, then it would be what you said, al lore-less game. But that's not what this is. It has lore. At least Titanfall players know this. We look for the backstory behind the reasoning as to why things happen in the game.
"Walking across King's takes seven minutes. "
Is that walking, running, or running with zip lines?@reconzero I genuinely didn't know about any controversy S14 had. I was just playing the game as usual. I did look up the reddit on it and you're right. I would just want the game to be faster but not that fast. My teammates are already enough of a drag, to the point I'm playing this game like its metal gear to respawn my teammates, but when there's no nearby unguarded crafters of respawns, i might as well just leave the game. I'm far from a COD player but there's to much free time in matches with a low to medium enjoyment level.
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