The Ongoing Smurphing/Cheating Issues
For a lot of us, we're trying to play the game, but we're getting steamrolled by players who are below level 100, aiming like gods, we're put into matches where players are way higher ranks and skill...
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@Midnight9746 wrote:
While this applies to pre-mades, it would stand to reason that random teammates should still be matched based on the rules as well.______________________________________________________________
Nothing about the match making stands to reason recently. I stopped playing ranked. I tell a lie, I played 2 games tonight just cause. Plat II, got matched with an ex master, we got dispatched v quickly. Ratted the second match, just cause, got to 3rd, went and played Fortnite arenas.
Looking forward to the touted matchmaking blog when it arrives.
@OldTreeCreeperI have no idea how the game isn't catching and banning all the smurph/cheater accounts. Game after game, level 1-50's are beaming up the lobby, and its "undetectable".
Edited: Last night it was nothing but plat and diamond players with some smurphs and cheaters. Today, its nothing but smurphs/cheaters aimbotting and wall hacking. This game is fun, don't get me wrong, but EA/Respawn are going to really need to overhaul everything to keep it alive.According to EA people are allowed to have additional accounts. But not allowed if they're doing so in order to bypass a ban.
Using a smurf account means after few good games will be back in higher lobbies anyway. I remember watching a video of some guy using invite system so you could bring a higher level player into a bot lobby by smurf account inviting it in. It should match make according to EOMM rating of highest player in party, that should solve things.
- @Midnight9746
It's a losing battle. Cheaters are able to spoof machine ID so they don't have to buy new hardware or using virtual machines and it takes only few mins to create another gmail account. Don't even have to create a gmail account as you have unlimited aliases by adding +XXX i.e. [edit: email address removed]
Valorant for example prevents use of virtual machines. But the problem is that it prevents game being played on cloud hosted gaming services such as shadowtech.
They do ban cheaters, but nothing to prevent them coming back easily. At very least 2FA should be enforced linked to mobile phone number. So then bans are by number association as well. Yea can easily buy VOIP to SMS service, but if they forced authentication by android/iphone app, it's more costly and time consuming for them to repeatedly register new mobile phone numbers.- @PeterN_UK The problem is that its already possible to spoof phone numbers, while people who get new phone numbers are at risk of a ban due to using numbers that were associated to a banned account.
Its too bad that they can't just make new accounts take time to be playable. In other words, EA/Respawn start requiring new accounts to be approved. My thinking on that is to delay how quickly smurphs/cheaters could get back into the game. However, that won't work either as there's no real way to figure out if its really a new player, or a smurph/cheater, and also the staffing and resources required to sort that out as well.
The only thing I can think of right now is getting a better anti-cheat for the cheating problem. Easy Anti-Cheat just sits there for the most part, while depending on player's reports to even function.
Cheaters are able to play for hours, days, and even weeks, using aimbot and wall hacks, and there are other kinds of cheats that existed in Apex, although they're less common.
Some of the less common ones are speeding up how fast the gun shoots, the damage the bullets do, infinite charge riffle beam, (which hasn't been a thing in a while, that's good), auto armor swapping, (they automatically pull armor out of nearby deathboxes without opening or looking at them), and even spawning armor, (saw a video where a guy had blue evo armor, which when dropped would instantly equip a white evo armor like they just dropped out of the drop ship).
Its honestly a shock that these sorts of things were possible and that they flew under the radar for so long. You would think that faster fire rates and more damage would be an automatic red flag, but I guess not.
@Midnight9746 wrote:@OldTreeCreeperI have no idea how the game isn't catching and banning all the smurph/cheater accounts. Game after game, level 1-50's are beaming up the lobby, and its "undetectable".
Edited: Last night it was nothing but plat and diamond players with some smurphs and cheaters. Today, its nothing but smurphs/cheaters aimbotting and wall hacking. This game is fun, don't get me wrong, but EA/Respawn are going to really need to overhaul everything to keep it alive.Respawn has made it perfectly clear, even explicitly expressed how its NOT even illegal to smurf, i.e play on new accounts in ranked. Whats illegal is to create new account after account to get those easy 2-3 first matches, this with the sole purpose to farm damage and kill badges.
I think the best solution would be even faster RP gains for good players. Bottom line; if you are good enough to get 10 kills, 3000+ dmg at your current rank, regardless what rank that may be, then you too good to play there and should be boosted SEVERAL ranks up. If it turns out you got boosted to a rank out of your skill level; well NP because then you will gradually lose RPs until you are demoted your "correct" rank. This would make it much less fun to smurf because you would only have a handful of matches anyway if you keep stacking high dmg/kills matches. Imagine those sad, pathetic master players who team up and smurf in Bronze4. First match, they get 30 squad kills and boom; now they are, lets say silver2. Next match--> 25 squad kills and boom, gold4 etc etc.. This would make it so unworth to smurf since they soon would be in high elo lobbies.But regardless of the faults of the current rank system; the rank system still put each player exactly where they belong. Most I see who complains about the rank system are previous "hardstuck platinums" who now is hardstuck gold in the new system, or "hardstuck diamond 4s" who now is hardstuck platinum and now are sad because of this and blames the system. I think we must just realize that old achievement means nothing. Take me for example; this split, I got to diamond 4 by solo Qing quite easily but then I really had to tryhard and grind to get to Diamond3 but there I got totally smashed every match and got so titled that I demoted all the way back to Diamond mid diamond 4. So I guess my peak rank this split in this system is low Diamond 3 and perhaps I should be Ok with this instead of looking for way to essentially make the system easier for me to get even higher.
@Balladalidila I'm not sure how each player is where they belong, when in plat II, along with other random plats or golds, the incomming champion squad is a premade master/pred squad, and I'm being killed by a pred.
I've previously posted screenshots of this. There is no equality or fun to be had there.
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