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PeterN_UK
3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Midnight9746
It's a losing battle. Cheaters are able to spoof machine ID so they don't have to buy new hardware or using virtual machines and it takes only few mins to create another gmail account. Don't even have to create a gmail account as you have unlimited aliases by adding +XXX i.e. [edit: email address removed]
Valorant for example prevents use of virtual machines. But the problem is that it prevents game being played on cloud hosted gaming services such as shadowtech.
They do ban cheaters, but nothing to prevent them coming back easily. At very least 2FA should be enforced linked to mobile phone number. So then bans are by number association as well. Yea can easily buy VOIP to SMS service, but if they forced authentication by android/iphone app, it's more costly and time consuming for them to repeatedly register new mobile phone numbers.
It's a losing battle. Cheaters are able to spoof machine ID so they don't have to buy new hardware or using virtual machines and it takes only few mins to create another gmail account. Don't even have to create a gmail account as you have unlimited aliases by adding +XXX i.e. [edit: email address removed]
Valorant for example prevents use of virtual machines. But the problem is that it prevents game being played on cloud hosted gaming services such as shadowtech.
They do ban cheaters, but nothing to prevent them coming back easily. At very least 2FA should be enforced linked to mobile phone number. So then bans are by number association as well. Yea can easily buy VOIP to SMS service, but if they forced authentication by android/iphone app, it's more costly and time consuming for them to repeatedly register new mobile phone numbers.
Midnight9746
3 years agoHero+
@PeterN_UK The problem is that its already possible to spoof phone numbers, while people who get new phone numbers are at risk of a ban due to using numbers that were associated to a banned account.
Its too bad that they can't just make new accounts take time to be playable. In other words, EA/Respawn start requiring new accounts to be approved. My thinking on that is to delay how quickly smurphs/cheaters could get back into the game. However, that won't work either as there's no real way to figure out if its really a new player, or a smurph/cheater, and also the staffing and resources required to sort that out as well.
The only thing I can think of right now is getting a better anti-cheat for the cheating problem. Easy Anti-Cheat just sits there for the most part, while depending on player's reports to even function.
Cheaters are able to play for hours, days, and even weeks, using aimbot and wall hacks, and there are other kinds of cheats that existed in Apex, although they're less common.
Some of the less common ones are speeding up how fast the gun shoots, the damage the bullets do, infinite charge riffle beam, (which hasn't been a thing in a while, that's good), auto armor swapping, (they automatically pull armor out of nearby deathboxes without opening or looking at them), and even spawning armor, (saw a video where a guy had blue evo armor, which when dropped would instantly equip a white evo armor like they just dropped out of the drop ship).
Its honestly a shock that these sorts of things were possible and that they flew under the radar for so long. You would think that faster fire rates and more damage would be an automatic red flag, but I guess not.
Its too bad that they can't just make new accounts take time to be playable. In other words, EA/Respawn start requiring new accounts to be approved. My thinking on that is to delay how quickly smurphs/cheaters could get back into the game. However, that won't work either as there's no real way to figure out if its really a new player, or a smurph/cheater, and also the staffing and resources required to sort that out as well.
The only thing I can think of right now is getting a better anti-cheat for the cheating problem. Easy Anti-Cheat just sits there for the most part, while depending on player's reports to even function.
Cheaters are able to play for hours, days, and even weeks, using aimbot and wall hacks, and there are other kinds of cheats that existed in Apex, although they're less common.
Some of the less common ones are speeding up how fast the gun shoots, the damage the bullets do, infinite charge riffle beam, (which hasn't been a thing in a while, that's good), auto armor swapping, (they automatically pull armor out of nearby deathboxes without opening or looking at them), and even spawning armor, (saw a video where a guy had blue evo armor, which when dropped would instantly equip a white evo armor like they just dropped out of the drop ship).
Its honestly a shock that these sorts of things were possible and that they flew under the radar for so long. You would think that faster fire rates and more damage would be an automatic red flag, but I guess not.
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