Tired of seeing wraith getting nerfed EVERY SEASON.

E9ine_AC
Hero+
5 years ago
@PandaBandit1337 But us wraiths can take other wraiths out just as we do any other legend. How can this be explained? Same logic applies. Just cause we both wraith dont mean we bypass the hitbox. lol
- matzesingt
  5 years ago
  Maybe they finally nerf her hitbox then they can revert the other changes np
  - MoNosDirtyGamin
    5 years ago
    @matzesingt Lol you really think adding another hitbox is going to stop players from crying about nerfing her because they can't aim to save their lives? No chance.
- matzesingt
  5 years ago
  @E9ine_AC since you both have the same hitbox its equal but its not when playing a different legend 😉
  - E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    5 years ago
    @matzesingt Yes but if we can hit the wraith why cant other legends hit the wraith? Just today multiple times did i wingman a wraiths head and kill her from a good 50 meters. If we can hit her no reason others cant. If i can be hit from 200 meters away easily then is it really broken? If i can be head shot up close and personal with multiple head shots being seen on death feed is it really that broken?
    
    Sure there are few things that may be off but point of my post is if we can kill wraith no reason non wraiths couldnt kill a wraith.
    
    Fix her hitbox revert all changes id be highly up for.
Balladalidila
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
Just curious; are you tired of seeing Wraith getting nerfed because
1) you think she now is actually is too weak to be played
2) because she is went from OP and is now more on par with the other legends balance wise, and you just are mad about it?
Because as a Pathfinder main since S1, I was "sad" when they nerfed him but objectively, I really saw the reasons why the nerf and honestly saw it coming. Pathfinder was, together with Wraith, the only legends that actually had an tactical that gave them a free get out of jail card. Both Path and Wraith could charge in, do alot of damage while taking alot of damage, and as long as they had a supporting team arriving short after, they could just use their Q to get themselves to safety, heal up and return and finish off the remaining enemies.
Bottom line is that Respawn clearly dont want this kind of legend design and it just makes sense that they re-balance the legends away from this. Wraith ULT is still super good for the team and her hitbox is probably the most difficult to hit, especially early game if you ask me. A crouch-strafe-crouch-strafe Wraith against you with an iron sight makes the weapon model cover 80% of the Wraith-model most of the time....
And in my experience, people play her ALOT, probably has been and still is the consistently most played Legend. So its kinda hard to argue about her being too weak.
- E9ine_AC
  Hero+
  5 years ago
  @BalladalidilaHonestly for me I still can do anything ive done from the start. I have had to adapt many many times now to her changes. I am tired of adapting every single season to major changes.
  
  While I can understand why some of the changes was made they just keep hitting us with curve balls every season. While some legends never get touched despite how strong they are.
  
  While im not saying that other legends can compare to wraith and path abilities some actually can. Not in terms of getting away but in terms of brutal slaughter abilities. Like gibby ult near instant damage to a radius. Causetic gas traps stacked with ult.
  
  Point i make above though is all legends have their very strong suites and their weak ones. We keep getting weaker and having to adapt. While some strong battle legends remain the same.
  - E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    5 years ago
    I am also not sure about this people play her a lot thing. I solo que up to 15 hours a day. Maybe today I had 2 people actually want wraith out of my 12 hours today and counting. This would literally come into terms that 2% of my games today in 12 hours was players wanting wraith.
- MoNosDirtyGamin
  5 years ago
  @Balladalidila I am tired of seeing NERFS EVERY SEASON for wraith. Season 6 and nerf number 6. I'm not trying to sit here tomorrow playing a legend which was smooth on day 1 and then turns out to feel like a slug, I will instantly quit this game and never look back. This is coming from a day 1 player who has spent a bunch on apex. I even have every single skin from the first event; while other players moaned they were "too expensive" and we're crying all over the forums about it.
  
  Pathfinder needed a nerf because he was impossible to chase/lose. His hitbox was also broken in season 3 exactly the same as it is now, this was added in via a stealth patch and not many people have noticed. You say pathfinder and wraith had get out of jail free cards, the difference here is that the other legends ultimate's/tacticals were garbage because they had no "retreat" functionality, this is also why wraith and pathfinder were always so popular, this is what I posted about months ago as to what the design aspect of legends should be based around, this is the only way to reduce the selection count for pathfinder/wraith. Nobody listened. This is why the new legends don't gain as much popularity and never will, because in the aspect of bridging a 5s gap to pop a batt, they're useless.
  
  If you're struggling to hit a wraith then the issue is also your aim, you are either going for the head and need to lower your aim slightly to compensate for her height or you need to go for straight body shots, added with her low profile NERF, it will still do full body damage when you hit her arm, her toe, her fingernails, doesn't matter. This is what most players don't understand. With pathfinder however it doesn't matter at all cause bullets straight up miss. Imagine a mastiff straight to pathfinders body and it doesn't get any damage.
MoNosDirtyGamin
5 years ago
@PandaBandit1337 Wrong, people mostly play wraith because she has been here since season 1. Who doesn't love consistency? I love consistency, which is why I like using wraith; she is fun to use, has nice voicelines, skins and she has a nice voice. On top of all that I have worked hard for my trackers.

Her hitbox is not broken, if you can't compensate for her headshots by aiming a little lower then usual, then it is your aim which is at fault because you are not taking her height into account. I hit wraiths no problem day in day out regardless of what legend I choose.

The difference between wraith and pathfinder is if you shoot a wraith in the chest it will register, if you shoot a pathfinder in the chest it will go through him. This is also why you are unable to punch a pathfinder in the current version of apex when you are stood directly in front of his face.