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bustyomouth
7 years ago
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Ttk changes apex legends

It would be nice to see some change to the ttk there's no reason I should unload a whole SMG clip in to someone's head and upper body just to get killed by them with a pistol. I feel it's a little lo...
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  • EA_Darko's avatar
    EA_Darko
    7 years ago

    Hey all, this childish bickering ends here and now. If you cannot post without insulting another user then please refrain from posting as from this point on, any poster insulting, abusing or belittling another user will be facing action.

    Accepting as solution for visibility.

    Darko

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SwagSwagJerry
7 years ago

 it's not COD or PUBG or even Fortnite. It's a tactical game. Players need to have enough reaction time to win.

  • General-NOH's avatar
    General-NOH
    7 years ago

    Having such a high ttk almost removes the need to have a good reaction time, takes away a lot from tactical advantages like position and element of surprise etc. People have too much time to react.

    • Joewlsi's avatar
      Joewlsi
      7 years ago
      @General-NOH wrote:

      Having such a high ttk almost removes the need to have a good reaction time, takes away a lot from tactical advantages like position and element of surprise etc. People have too much time to react.

      ???

      Did you just say you are not good? Cause if you got the drop on them and they can react and still kill you is a you problem not a TTK problem.
      You all seem to forget that the TTK works in both ways.

      • LoganX1's avatar
        LoganX1
        7 years ago

        Sorry but you're way off. 

        Was watching my son play yesterday and multiple times got the drop on people (behind them) with and SMG (supposed to be a cqc shredder right?). Unloaded a whole clip...hitting every shot only to have to reload while the person turned around to shotgun him. 

        SMG is not a precision weapon it's a spray weapon and within its optimal range should not take more than a clip. 

        He's a 16 yo avid Fortnite and Destiny player and aim is not an issue. 

        Either TTK is too high or certain weapons need a major buff to actually work as intended. Otherwise you end up with another BR game where shotguns are the only viable cqc weapons and that would be sad for this game. 

        I may not have 20 yo thumbs anymore but taking more than a  clip with most weapons will not serve this game well. People need to look at the bigger picture. 

        When the novelty of the game wears off and people can't make the 'big plays' the numbers and social popularity will suffer. 

  • Teewurst2k's avatar
    Teewurst2k
    7 years ago

    you are right its tactical so you have to move tactical and not open field to spot enemys and have the advantage. but how apax work now , i dont see there any tactical moves , you run open field stupidly cuz you know you have 5 mags time to get in cover. 

  • trogistreed420's avatar
    trogistreed420
    7 years ago
    It’s not about reaction time ppl just simply don’t die unless your team shooting or dump 2 clips into them or hit everyshot a headshot while they’re franticly jumping around
  • DukeSkygawker's avatar
    DukeSkygawker
    7 years ago

    Apex is definitely the least tactical major BR game out there. It's a very run and gun game, and that is exactly because the TTK is so high (and I'm not even saying it should be lowered). But I keep hearing people say a high TTK means more tactics, but it's literally the opposite. High TTK+healing mechanics=demand for close-quarters combat. Snipers aren't that great for kill counts. They're a DPS support that only gets kills if someone else is assisting or if the target is a potato. Mid range is useful for lowering shields and health, but with high TTK+healing, you have to dive in and finish them off or you've wasted all your time. Add to this the speed and movement style, and you've got yourself an arcadey run-and-gun hearkening back to Unreal Tournament. You have to move in and land every shot. You could make the argument that the speed and mobility make flanking and positioning a more fluidly tactical experience, but again you run into the wall of high TTK, which still places fights where you outflank on potentially even footing. Take a look at some popular low TTK games. CS GO is fairly low TTK and it is pretty tactical. RS Siege is extremely low TTK and it's 100% a tactical experience. All much slower games with high consequences for being shot.

    • LoganX1's avatar
      LoganX1
      7 years ago
      @DukeSkygawker wrote:

      Apex is definitely the least tactical major BR game out there...


      Best description of what's happening I've seen.  

      High ttk is not tactical. It.makes mid to low G range engagements worthless for killing. 

      Awesome post 

    • TrueDivinorium's avatar
      TrueDivinorium
      7 years ago

      Camping or slowly moving so you always see the enemy before they see you and get an easy kill - "Tactics"

      I'm sorry guys you don't even know the meaning of the word tactics. Anything can be "tactical"; Run and gun IS a tactic the same way that camping is one. 

      It's fair to say that this game is more arcade than Arma and that's great. Because when you get 3 partied you have a chance to shot back. 


      I read people bragging about how they play HC and the "pros" friends are leaving due the lack of tactics. but here's the deal: There's tactics in the game, a properly executed ambush can and will wipe a team before they can react. But you need the know how and arguably have the aim to back the plan.

      Yet the "tactical" people don't seen to realize that the "tactics" you use in others games will need to be adapted to work here. This is not Arma where the fact that you can see the enemy before he sees you means he is dead.

      Being tactical is seeing the situation and learning how to adapt to it. That's the most basic thing anyone that actually knows anything about tactics will learn. (otherwise you try to "tactically" flank an enemy that waits you through a choke point)

      Yet here we are, a bunch of "tactical" players that doesn't realize that the problem is their approach to the game at hand, that their "tactics" need to be changed or adapted. But no, they say that there's no "tactic" in this game.

      • preyandplay's avatar
        preyandplay
        7 years ago

        The only players who do not mind high TTK are cheaters. High TTK favors cheaters for obvious reasons.
        This also favors the team game and the penalty of lone wolves.
        However, not only high TTK is an Apex problem. It is generally a weapon mechanics optimized to force players to play a team game, which is absurdly stupid. And the weapon in Apex Legends is very unbalanced.

        - Some weapons have no recoil, some have a huge recoil.
        - Some weapons are useless, some are OP.
        - Most weapons have extremly low capacity magainzes, some have average or better.
        - Sniper rifles have limitation of the shooting speed and extremly high bullet drop.

        So what we have now? Wingman is better than Scout and Scout is better than Tripletake becasue this crap can't hit anyone from 50 meters because bullet drop. Nice idea, a energy weapon with extremly high bullet drop, but you can easy spray with Devotion for the horizon and kill someone.

        Seems legit. 🤓

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