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Yeah counter in a sense of treat her like mercy from overwatch, kill her first?
In the arena it might be easy to counter and get out of because there are no third parties, but in trios and ranked, you're fighting one squad then get third partied by another squad, it's hard to prioritizes who to kill first, it usually one that has the most immediate threat. Most of the time it's not very clear because there's so much chaos going on that when you see the indications of incoming missile attack, it's already too late to get out of the affecting area. If all three members of your squad get hit by valks missiles and assuming you weren't low on health before and you don't die to it, it's an easy win for their squad because they can wipe you in the 2 seconds of stun you get.
Literally it's an "I win" button!
- 5 years ago
@E9ine_AC
Again you're not being stunned. You can get out and dodge, plus the amount of warning time on gibbys and bangs ults is pretty high. It's not at the same level of valks, if you get hit by 3-4 of valks missiles you just got 60-80hp damage plus a stun-lock which will kill you.
All I'm saying is it needs to be ult, if we're keeping the stun-lock. Other wise remove the stun and treat it like a knuckle cluster.- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+
@Mad_Professor86Correct but if you go time it the time a gibby red circles are on the ground to the time they start landing on the ground you will see its not much different then valks timers of hers hitting the ground. Gibby and bangs ults also stun.
- 5 years ago
@E9ine_AC
Obviously you haven't see valk in action, because her red circles are barely on the ground for more than a second before missiles impact for every encounter I have been in.
Again, you can get out of the way of gibby and bangs ult, and if your are hit you can still get out, it's not a stun-lock vs a stun there's a difference, stun mean you can still move but it's slow, stun-locked means you're stationary and can't move or barely move at all.
- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+@Mad_Professor86 I actually feel this ability was not intended to be pumped out a lot of damage but more of crowd control with stuns. Which I personally find ok as other abilities that do much more damage also stun.
- 5 years ago
@Mad_Professor86you said 3 or 4 missiles is 60/80 damage. Actually, it is 25+3 by additional missiles. You also get stunned by Bangs/Gibby explosions as well. Only Fuse hasn't this side effect. But I recognize that the timer between the marks and the missile is shorter... What is more annoying in my sense is the so quick refill with so much mobility for her jetpack. This is litteraly unfair to all other legends with a mobility component, and I say that while I like the concept very much. But she should not refill, or refill only after one minute (and maybe not infinitely. Maybe charge tower could get her a refill, which would be logical since she can power her ultimate as well).
Oh, and also, having a detector like Bloodhound (actually, BETTER, than BH's), having ability to read topographic beacons like Pathfinder, and so on...
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