Wattson in a good place ?!

So many people seem to be stuck on camping with Wattson. I play her in such way that she provides distraction and gives me the ability to push flanks on unsuspecting teams. I run her aggressive and it pays off for me. I think too many people get stuck with the mindset that fences are there to block/slow people, but they can be used in so many more ways. Perhaps the issue isn't her, as much as it is peoples abilities to use her effectively. 

@SaltyHouseThats the problem, her kit has nothing beneficial for offensive play, the 5% extra damage from low profile doesn’t help either

I have around 750 kills, 30 wins, 250k damage and at least 90% of that was just playing her offensive as I would with any other legend... no fences except to block ziplines,doors, a vault,or somewhere late game and I would use an occasional pylon to block gibby ults or to block grenades/get some extra shields

Her ultimate is fine, I just believe her fences are in the same place ramparts walls were because they are too easily destroyed and need a hp buff and I hate having to rely on her ultimate just to be able to place down her fences... fence cooldowns needs reduced

Ive been trying to have fun on wattson but the last 2 hours have been a miserable experience unless I drop solo and get a couple kills and play her offensive/defensive which isn’t easy to do with randoms because they never stay close or just start spam pinging and stuff 

Basically wattson is great during hot drops and late game, everywhere in the middle her kit isn’t useful with randoms because your constantly on the move... Wattson just keeps going down and down the list each season in my eyes back in season 2-3 she was amazing but as more and more legends are introduced, old legends recieve buffs, etc she just keeps getting less and less viable every season

"Also if win rates and stats aren't important why do they mention and make adjustments based on them"

This is a massive argument from authority and circular logic. Developers basing their decision on something does not make the decision-making method logical. 

"it's about the edge"

Your argument failed miserably in this regard too. What "edge"? Have you even tried playing Wattson on Olympus? She is absolutely useless.

@SugaryJuice There is absolutely no reason why they should be basing their conclusions off of win rates... its honestly ridiculous and shouldn’t be how they are basing their decisions on balancing the game... no wonder its never balanced

note: i honestly have no idea what I was trying to say here... I reread the first part and was so confused so I just edited to be halfway right

all I know is aside from wattson having some cute skins like the xmas elf one, she isn’t a fun legend to play anymore because her kit is very situational and doesn’t fit in with most areas of each map... I understand they plan on adding fence toggle to make her fun again but Im fairly certain that won’t be enough because her fences are still too easily destroyed and without her ult being active shes useless... Rampart has more potential than Wattson and thats a fact I have actually been enjoying Rampart this season but nobody is using her because of how bad she was players just assume Rampart is still bad... but shes not

Basically they need to not be afraid to overbuff weak legends, its far easier to nerf a overpowered legend than it is to buff a weaker one after release

This isn’t really a Buff or a Nerf for Wattson (it’s both) but since a Caustic can freely go into an enemy Caustic’s gas I think Wattson should be able to freely go into an enemy Wattson’s Fences

Wattson can use an Enemy Wattson’s Nodes to complete a fence so I don’t really see an issue with implementing this feature and it would give wattson a little offensive advantage against an enemy Wattson so its a buff but at the same time its a nerf because the same thing could happen to you... which is why I think it should be added to the game

I also want Caustic’s Gas to no longer INSTANTLY destroy wattson’s fences... its bad enough that your recieving 12+ damage per tick but on top of that your also being slowed/partially blinded... now imagine the same scenario but wattson still has her fences up for slight protection then she would actually be a useful defensive legend like she is meant to be

I was avoiding the line of questioning regarding my play history with Wattson because while she is my most popular character, whether or not I play her a lot is not even relevant, just like me getting the fence damage wrong is irrelevant. The fence damage was originally 10 and apparently at some recent point it was changed, so I'm not even "wrong". Half the time my fences get crossed they're from stragglers across the map so the damage doesn't even show up. You should know this.

As for your claim that teammates' projectiles aren't negated while within the pylon radius - that is laughably false. I just played several games where my teammates tried to save themselves by using tacticals but because they were next to my pylon, they just disappeared. Bangalore tried to smoke - GONE. Horizon tried to throw an anti-gravity well to escape a team that just rushed her - GONE. DEAD. Caustic tried to throw his ultimate into a window to cleave a whole team with the perfect opportunity to get an instant squad wipe - NEGATED. 

"i actually lost a game on Olympus this morning to a wattson who made a great fence play on my team and cutting us off from each other"

If a Wattson was able to "cut you off" from your team, then you weren't together in the first place. And I'm not sure how fences stopped you from getting a win. Unless you're playing in beginner noob lobbies where people have no idea what anything does, normally players just walk through the fences, eat the tickle damage and slow, and proceed as though nothing happened. So this sounds like a you failure.

@SugaryJuiceI have had that issue, using a pylon to stop enemy grenades meanwhile your randoms keep trying to throw grenades/ use fuses tactical etc and are unable to do it

Sadly, I think Im done trying to play Wattson and will just start playing Caustic again... I really wanted to have fun with wattson but her kit isn’t viable with randoms and even without them you can only defend for so long until the enemy team decides they have had enough and just rushes through the fences because they don’t even hurt... I guess Im done with wattson until the devs wake up and finally see how useless she is in causal lobbies... asking for a wattson buff is like asking them for solos... never going to happen because they are stubborn as hell

Note:
I believe originally her fences did 20 damage, then they nerfed to 10 and recently buffed them back to 15

I really wanted to have fun on wattson because I figured she would be a good counter for fuse and I just recently got her legendary from the anniversary event packs but she is just as unplayable now as she was 4 seasons ago... Wattson was great in season 2-3 but since then she has only gotten worse as more and more legends and maps were added to the game

@Ironflower196Its not 100% logical. Because the stats for wattson reflect mostly high level play. Below that her pick rate is non existent.

There no doubt she's a good legend, but for normal play, her kit can be underwhelming, especially with the new maps. So the stats are slightly one sided.

Caustic is the closest to compare her to, hes pick massively across the board, and in most situations he's much more useful.

Do me a favour play wattson for half a day, and caustic for half a day and see who you feel you get your money's worth with the most.

You said yourself you've played watton very little that in itself says a lot.

Her fences are easily destroyed with a painfully slow cooldown, and extremely situational on the new maps.
Her ultimate is good but you rely on accelerants and it doesn't always stop grenades depending on where you place it, and you rely on her ultimate also for her kit to work to its full potential

He is overall a more useful and stronger legend. I guarantee you if so many noobs didn't pick caustic his win rate would be just as high if not higher than wattson

@JimmyLad993Idk wattson’s win rate but caustic was bumped up to #5, caustic also has the #1 win rate for matches lasting longer than 20 minutes

@TheApexLegendNubI have no idea about win rate stats in all honesty just what I've heard, this Is a quote from one of the Devs

"Right now she's barely seen, even at the highest level, and even in comp she's fallen off from her near-100% pick rate peak, but it doesn't take very much to push an already strong character from "never seen" to "everywhere and a pain in the butt".

Right now the winrate top 5 breaks down as Horizon > Wraith > Gibby > Lifeline > Wattson. If we put meaningful power into Wattson it's quite likely we'd make a not-so-fun to play character a must pick for people trying to win. That's not great"

That was posted about a month ago, so I'm sure it's shifted now tho

"It's not 100 percent logical but it's what makes the most sense."

* Confusion * 

"Wattson isn't a pubs character"

She's not a ranked character either. When every single match is stacked with Caustics, Revenants, and Octanes, Wattson just cannot win as a legend. She has no defense or mobility. She doesn't even offer the team anything outside of her ultimate, which is a liability for projectile tacticals and ultimates anyway. If someone on the team is going to pick a defender, there is currently absolutely no reason they should be picking Wattson. None. 

@SugaryJuiceThats the truth, her ultimate is nice but other than that her entire kit needs a rework her fences are absolutely useless as soon as her ultimate expires and even with her ultimate they can usually destroy it or shoot the fences at different angles from outside

@JimmyLad993The only time wattson was great during the winter express was when she had a decent loadout I did good with her when I either had the flatline loadout or the eva 8/g7scout loadout and I think about the spitfire one too but that was mainly because of their optics

her pylon was good for blocking grenade spam but her fences were useless people would always destroy her fences 

Caustic on the other hand dominated the event, the only problem I had using caustic was trying to place down gas canisters while the train was still in motion so they wouldn’t go where I wanted them without trying 2-3 times