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2 years ago

What made YOU quit apex?

For the people that quit or barely play anymore but still visit this sub what was the reason you dropped off from the game? CM - this post was created by another account

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MrGreenWithAGun

Rising Ace

2 years ago

@vy2t15kfno9nThis is fascinating. I had never heard of EOMM before. Probably because until I began playing Apex, I never played an EA game before.

Fascinating.

So as I read through the EOMM research paper, it seems that it is saying that the difference between random matchmaking (no thought in pairing players) yields about 2% less engagement than EOMM. It seems that this is an argument for not wasting any time in developing any kind of match making system at all, just randomly group people together and you will save a lot of money and have almost the same outcome as a complex, expensive EOMM system.

Or am I misreading it?

If this is true, it indicates that the matchmaking system itself plays next to no part in retaining players; rather it is the game play itself.

Personally, I like the Halo 3 SBMM where you have unique 50-scale rankings in social and in competitive playlists. Simple, honest, transparent, and drives players to grind up to 50.

reconzero
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
@MrGreenWithAGun

"Personally, I like the Halo 3 SBMM where you have unique 50-scale rankings in social and in competitive playlists. Simple, honest, transparent, and drives players to grind up to 50."

Sorry for a reply to a three month old post, but I only just saw it. You and I have very different recollections of how the H3 ranking system worked and how it interfaced with sbmm. I thought it was the worst system I'd ever seen, far too easy to manipulate. Manipulating it up wasn't easy, but plenty of people bought accounts or got their higher-skilled friends to carry them. And when the day came that you got tired of grinding against players of equal or higher skill? Just de-rank to the level of your choice and go to town. By the end of that game the number next to the gamertag had almost to relation to or bearing on the skill of the player you were about to face. It was a fiasco. Or anyway that's how I remember it.

And I know this is strictly a recon thing, but there isn't or ever has been any force in the universe that could drive me to grind a rank ladder. Halo was the game that proved to me indisputably that ranks are a feather on a string and you the player are the cat that swipes madly away, and you get the feather when the people holding feel like screwing with you, and it got taken away just as fast, and often for things you couldn't even comprehend or for factors that were out of your control. Rank ladders are a head game, and even when you're moving up you're not winning. You're always there for someone else's benefit.

Sorry about the rant.

Happy gaming!