When does the rigged matchmaking end ?
We are fed up , seriously ! Please admit its a rigged system, we all know that https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/apex-legends/news/matchmaking-2023 is a lie , that 4-5 bucket explaination is an utter ...
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@NerfMyAimPlz"you guys forget is that the matchmaking is the same for everyone. ".
And i beg to differ.
Friend (roughly the same skill) queues at the same time as me , gets > 200kill mates, i queue < 100 kill mates ... 20 times in a row.
Dont tell me the matchmaking is the same for everyone , it has a reason why i say its rigged, thats not out of thin air !
The main difference between my friend an me is : i invested like 50 Bucks on apex, he maybe 500+ , maybe thats the "other variables" that count into the MM
And for me its not about some rank being "hardstuck" whatever , its about having a good game (i play pubs most of the time) . I dont like to babysit beginners constantly,
Well, you are correct that there are variables that make the matchmaking not totally random for players of the exact same rank which it should be IMO. In Respawns blog post about SBMM, they admitted that each players hidden elo affects the matchmaking even in ranked, which is ridiculous. They explicitly confirmed that if you are having good games, i.e you are over-performing at your current rank, you will be matched against higher elo players which usually means players who currently is a higher rank than yours. And likewise, if you are underperforming, you might be matched with players below your current rank etc etc. (So this is the reason why you sometimes see a "diamond" in gold lobbies. That diamond probably had multiple bad games with -60 RP and therefore dropped in ELO to average Gold)
BUT my point is that these rules are the same for everyone. You are not singled out in a ranked matchmaking specifically tailored to put YOU, one player among millions, in an disadvantage compared to all other players. Thats my point. We all play under the same rules. So if you cant reach, lets say Diamond4, then its not the system that is rigged because many other players manage to reach diamond 4 under the exact same matchmaking as you.
The only systematic unfairness that I can think of is that they sometimes match 3-man stacks vs squads of 1 solo + 1 premade duo. But in all honestly, I think the matchmaking is actually try to avoid this too. I rarely see obvious full 3-man stacks when I play solo and I can definitely see a difference in enemy teams coordination and teamwork when I play as a 3-man premade compared to when I solo Q
- @NerfMyAimPlz where in this thread did i ever mention rank ?! I mostly play pubs ... and when i get dealt a lot of beginner players in a row, i kinda feel cheated out of having fun.
Well it was you who answered my first post which clearly was about ranked mm. I just skimmed the previous posts but it seems to me that most people talk about ranked in this thread. Maybe clarify in the title that you only want to discuss pubs?Dont know about the MM in pubs but it seems to me that good players will have average good games and bad players will on average have bad games i.e very little SBMM and mostly randoms or based on premade or solo-status. Still doesnt feel "rigged", just a bit unfriendly and harsh I guess.
@NerfMyAimPlzyea and you ranted about the people here being whiny while hardstuck and i wanted to point out that that's not me (me being the one opening this thread ...).
And since you said you dont know about MM in pubs, take my word ... its not unfriendly/harsh, its rigged. if it would be random, i would get players across the board, but its 70% beginners, 20% "brainiacs" that know better even its obviously a bad idea and around 10% good matches.And by good matches i dont mean wins, just good matches where the team works as a team. Ok the MM cant really get those 20% brainiacs filtered out, but surely the "newbs".
Im fed up of the Purple shield octanes that do 50dmg, leave the loot goblins to smb else but me.
