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DrWizardo
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

Where does the P2020 shine?

I am asking this because I find myself often getting a P2020 at start with enemies picking up a Flatline, r99 or pretty much any other gun which simply slaps the P2020's butt.


If you have hammers the p2020 can deal somewhat decent damage, but it is still worse than anything else. Moderate range? Well you can still pick up every other gun - carepackage guns as the very first gun off of drop.

Investing in the gun (finding hopups, magazines, laser sights) still won't make it better than anything else.
In the extreme situation that you have low ammo and damage per shot matters most, other guns are still better.

Now even if I say the other guns are better, I still don't dislike the gun. I just wish that it could be good.

I don't know how swap-times work in apex, but often you have a swap speed to a gun, and not from. The pistols, and here the p2020 should be the very best, should be faster to swap to and from. Perhaps this is already somwhat true in swapping to the pistols, but vice versa should apply.

I'd also like to see something like incendiary rounds for the p2020, dealing DoT + up front damage. Something to make it more positively unique play wise, as now it is "spamming the button as fast as you can".
I say this because I also hope that we will get a heavy ammo pistol/revolver (maybe a 2-shot burst) and an energy one (beam gun?).

What are your thoughts about the p2020?
Is it just a throw away gun, or do you find it better than some other gun? 



5 Replies

  • @DrWizardo

    Don't pick it up.

    If you pick it up, drop it.

    If you have to choose between a grenade and the 2020, take the grenade.

    When you see a 2020, RUN FROM IT!
  • I'd say at the very start of the game when you drop directly on one and the opposing person doesn't get it and has no gun.

  • DrWizardo's avatar
    DrWizardo
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @Realthing707 I see what you did there.

    Any gun can be good there, but not exactly shining. If they start swinging it can still be rough.
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    DrWizardo
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago
    @MrGreenWithAGun I don't think it is unuseable, I can pick it up and deal damage. It works. It is just that I don't find it better than any other option.

    In close combat it can win vs. a sniper as a backup gun or "main" at the start when you have nothing else. You can potentially peak and shoot it vs. a havoc (not turbocharged).
    But then there is always a better option. What I'm asking is where and when would you want to have the P2020 specifically, and not another gun.
  • MrGreenWithAGun's avatar
    MrGreenWithAGun
    Rising Ace
    2 years ago

    @DrWizardoI'm not sure it is as effective as punching.

    I notice that when someone punches you, they lunge at you, like the netcode is trying to reconcile their location on your machine after the server said the punch landed, and your machine has to catch up and fast.

    I also notice that when you get punched, you get tossed pretty good distance, sort of to give you some room to run and not get punched again, or is it to help the netcode reconciliation in some way...

    I would rather toss a grenade and run than stand and shoot with that thing.

    Where does it shine? In the toilet.

    Literally.

    In the toilet in KC, where regularly 4 or 5 squads land on top of each other, and if you can get it, you might be able to knock someone in a punching match with another squad from a safe distance.

    But I don't play in toilets.

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