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6 years ago

Wraith is nerfed to DEATH!!!

Either remove Wraith or leave her alone....u have made her near impossible to use compared to almost every other legend...where as im tired of all the buffs to Gibraltor, and returning his gun shield...

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shanehayes1234

6 years ago

Wraith really does need a buff.

I mean especially when you're constantly being matched with people who know how to aim and can hit a wraith easily so therefore the 5% extra damage is really helping it's giving them an additional advantage and puts U at a disadvantage. I hate how her tactical ability makes it easy to follow u takes so long to activate and leaves u without a gun straight away plus U can even open doors either so getting to a spot where U can't be shot at straight away is really hard plus if you're facing octane or pathfinder forget about trying run away from them with your tactical cause it ain't happening.

Just my thoughts

LordloshBang

6 years ago

Okay for one thousand time, just because you decide to go rambo, and couldn`t handle yourself, you shouldn`t be allowed to abuse a completely OP ability, can you get that to your head pls ?

Do you realize that this is not a solo game? Should i, who are maining Octane, Banga and Mirage should explain to you, who to use your ability effectively ?

How in the blue hell, not for once in my life i did not see ImperialHal, Dizzy, Aceu, and thousand of PRO or Top players using Wraith get f******* straight away after they leave their phase?

Can you explain me that ? This game actually require skills to play, and actually a brain and you also need to use your brain to think how to handle the certain situation.

If i charge enemy teams with Octane or Mirage or Bangalore i will end up straight dead.

If i do the same with Wraith i have the ability to escape and receive 0 damage. His phase is imune even to zone damage, no other abilities have a complete invulnerability, none !!!

You realize you have a team right ? So how exactly you will get traced and killed instantly after using your phase, when you actually have 2 teammates that are there for you?

Did you get where i`m going now ??? If not, let me explain it for you.

If you decide to rambo in a position far from your team, YES you should have died, because you decide to rambo.

But if you are fighting with your teammate and actually use the phase as it intended, you will 99% escape, heal and get back for a fight.

Sorry but i watch plenty of pro players, and even when Dizzy, Aceu, Imperial and so on of the pro players ended playing 1 vs 3, because their ally died, left or etc, they still abuse Wraith path and they still end up getting out of the danger zone, heal and go do more damage and actually constantly winning because of that.

No they won`t do the same with any other character in the game.

Watch from 4:20 on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvuhVVt7H68&t=197s

No other character would escape that situation, NONE !!!

This is pre some of the nerf, but the point is the same.

If you have a problem with your phase and how to use it, the best way to learn is to watch PRO Wraith players, like Imperial for example.

Wraith is in a good spot right now, still a top 2 character, and if anything she deserve more tune down, not buffs.

And again 5% damage is 5 damage out of 100 and 10 damage out of 200, which is nothing, compare to the tiny sh**** abusive hitbox she have and how many bullet you dodge, the moment you choose her as a legend.

Sir_Named
6 years ago
@LordloshBang You don't have to be so toxic.
Anyway, the youtube video you linked isn't the best example, as it is very outdated. It's from S2, and Wraith has been nerfed a lot since then. Her cooldown has been raised from 25-35, and she no longer had the extra speed boost when using her tactical and her ult. You can tell it's from S2 because he had disruptor rounds on his re-45. I just wanted to point this out.
- LordloshBang
  6 years ago
  Firstable i`m not toxic, to be fair i`m very cool guy. Always use my mic, when not playing with friends and doing great conversation with any players, no matter of the skill level.
  I`m just hostile towards against players, who obviously put their personal preference, infront of overall balance of the game.
  As far as the video i give, no the example is great and show you how much of a imba Wraith and her tactical are. But i don`t see why you need to mention it, when i already said it in my post ???
  And you are wrong, her portal still gives you 25% movement boost.
  And as i said there is plenty of videos of ImperialHal as his still play this game and is a Wraith player and how useful her tactical is.
  
  And sorry once again, but you can`t complain where the big Online tournament just end, and Wraith was pick for every single team.It was picked 99,99% of the time by every single team. The other one was Pathfinder, he was picked in 99,99% as well.
  
  When you have 12 legends, and 2 of them are a constant pick, its mean something. Actually the other 2 legends that were picked was Gibby and Wattson.
  Not a single Octane, not a single Mirage, not a single Bangalore, not a single Revenant, LifeLine, Caustic, Bloodhound or Cryptic.
  
  Sorry but this is no 2 legends game, so the guy have zero sense to cry for the balance Wraith receive and in top of that to cry for buffs. Its ridiculous.
  What Octane, Mirage and etc player should ask then ?
  When your character is top 2 in the game from day 1, and its still top 2 character, you don`t have the right to cry about nerf/buffs and so on.
  This is my point.
  - Infernex0
    6 years ago
    We're not "crying" because she's not op anymore, we're "crying" cause she kinda unreliable to play (at least to me) out of all the legends wraith has been nerfed the most and while she was op at first she's kinda overwhelming now. If you play ranked (silver at least) you notice the difference that all the nerfs have. That 5% more damage might not seem like much but it can stack up quickly. Her passive while sounding op just gives you situational awareness best countered by 1 not aiming at her 2 patience or 3 just tricking her. Her tac was op at 15 seconds until use but at 35 it gives you 3 seconds of time to think and half that time your dead before or after you use it also add I'm the facts that they can see you and you can't see them heal or open doors. Her ult has deserved nearly all it patches except for the fact it no longer gives you a speed boost at all. I've played wraith since the game first came out but every time I get comfy playing her I have to make I have to "adapt" as others say, so when you "adapt" so much it's like constantly moving homes. Personally all I want as a buff for is her speed buff back on her port and bringing her tactical back to 25 seconds. Though this comment is a bit late to say XD (also to compare that 5% damage boost the r99 does 216 damage per second 216 × 0.05 = 226 [or 227 if you round] when you land all your shots)