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BinGeHD's avatar
7 years ago

A very simple method to greatly reduce hacking...

TL;DR - why not toss players who purchase 20 USD or more of microtransactions in to a prime matchmaking que? I haven't spent money on this game yet, and I would do it knowing that Respawn will put me in higher quality games.

Hi guys.

I come from the Starcraft II generation of gamers. Let me preface this post by saying, I never once encountered a hacker from China for Starcraft II. I will now explain how this relates to the global Apex Legends scene.

I haven't touched SC2 since 2016, now the game is free to play, and it is very possible that the hacker numbers have skyrocketed as a result. However, I will outline the fundamentals behind why there were no hackers from China in the game back when I was active from 2011-2016 - and, yes, I played on the China server quite frequently. Please note I am also not stating that hacking didn't exist. The NA  and KR servers were a bit rampant in late 2014 going in to 2015 as well, but nowhere near as bad as Apex Legends in Asia is right now.

1) In China, there was a monthly subscription model (2 USD / month) for Starcraft II until February of 2012. After February of 2012 you could continue to follow a subscription model or you could just purchase a permanent account for 15 USD on the Chinese server.

2) Registering a Chinese battle.net account and topping up on battle.net points was a hassle that involved going through many 3rd party websites. This likely contributed to the barrier of entry for the Chinese market.

3) This is perhaps the most key detail: I never once encountered a hacker from China on the NA / EU / KR / SEA servers specifically due to the price difference between an American Starcraft II account and a Chinese starcraft II account (39.99 vs 15 USD). Key detail II: There were still many Chinese players who purchased accounts for the Korean server (at roughly 39.99 USD) in 2011-2012 so that they could specifically play against / practice against the world's strongest players. Even today you will find Chinese Starcraft II pro gamers playing on the Korean server to stay at the top of their game.

I like the idea of grouping players who pay 20 USD or more in microtransactions in to a prime matchmaking que or grant us a pass to a "prime server". I haven't spent money on this game yet and I would be willing to if it would guarantee me a better matchmaking experience.

18 Replies

  • 7cyanide's avatar
    7cyanide
    Seasoned Ace
    7 years ago

    @Warp1O I would say most cheaters buy the battle pass too because I've learned they're grinding exp at other players' expense, not enjoy Apex. Level caps could help, but then you have a new issue; new players facing cheaters all day. Cheaters will be remaking accounts and playing against other cheaters and ruining new player experience on level capped servers. So unfortunately even though it's a good idea, it's another botched solution.

  • Warp1O's avatar
    Warp1O
    Rising Hotshot
    7 years ago

    I will support a Ping Limit its horrible to play against Ping Abusers. Easyest way I think that the Data Center didnt Show Servers with higher Ping 100 so you cant choose them.

    I understand that my Idea is not an absolute solution but it will help and players with higher levels will get a better experience in rnd games. There are so many Reasons that it is no fun to

    play with low levels all day. I see many players who skip their team if they see a low or 2 in their Team. I hope time penalty for Leavers find their way back in the Game soon ;-)

  • Your ping limit idea is great for people in North America and Europe...

    Until 5G hits.

    But lets assume a ping limit would fix the problem for you.

    What about the people in Asia in Neighboring countries? Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Singapore, etc...

    They would still have to deal with hackers from China.

    EDIT: The solution I present is literally the best I can think of because 20 USD, to the average Chinese person, is 20 - 40 lunches depending on where he or she lives.

  • it would be better to give ea 100 dollars they give back to you when you stop playing for a month and they close your account.

    make it 200, and if your caught hacking they keep your 200, or donate it to Detroit SPCA to take care of mongrel dogs and cats, or something like a charity..

  • @BinGeHD I think the idea of "prime" matchmaking is good. However, paying for a "prime" matchmaking may not go over well with the public.

    I do believe in creating a "prime" matchmaking system that is enabled when users verify information (such as phone number, email, 2-factor authentication, etc). Other steam games have implemented this and I believe it reduces cheaters 10-fold in that queue compared to normal queue.
  • @BinGeHD

    Well,

    If you really want to fix cheating it won't be nice nor cheap...
    Because if an area has such a High demand for cheats it means people
    are also willing to buy/use them.

    Phone number & Email authentication are a good start though as
    PlzBuffMozambiqu mentioned. (lol like your name btw^^)

    If you want Security

    -ID check (5$)

    -An ISP/IP registration with a cross-checking process of the ID.
    with max 2 users per connection would be a good start. (cost10$)

    -Register hardware numbers of your rig to the IPs given by your ISP. (5$)

    -In combination with a bank account check as PayPal uses would be useful. (kids can ask their parents) (10$)

    Only use a Bank account that exists longer than 3-4 months. And only banks that have an ID authentication process.

    -Might not want to use all online banks some are shifty.
    The cost for an apex registration would then be 20-40$$$
    cause it would be way too much work to register all players for free.

    Anyway, I would only even consider this If a game is flooded by cheaters.
    That's why I'm asking is it really that bad???
    Also, this might not even be legal in some countries and all internet cafes in China would not be happy about this.

    But if that's what you/ we have to do these days to play a fair game then woah I think we are basically ******...



  • jumanjaydazed's avatar
    jumanjaydazed
    7 years ago

    @OneEyeYarric 

    imo, the player base would drop significantly here in China. Especially if there was an ID check (parents won't let their kids have access to their #...mainly minors) and hardware register (the int cafes would be like "hell no" cause if one idiot installs that hack, the whole cafe gets rubbed out)

    Yeah, phone number and email is a good start. But here, and probably other countries in Asia, It would take me approx 4 minutes to set up a new account and go downstairs and buy a new sim card(pay per use). Pretty easy to repeat the process if one gets busted for cheating.

    Many ppl don't have credit cards, but like on Steam, you could use debit, credit or here in China we can use Wechat.

    100% this would deter most of the cheaters as they would likely move onto the next f2p game. Some would still stick around cause they have nothing but time and $ to burn.

    It would just come down to convenience, accessibility to funds and authentication /identification. To some, it's not worth the hassle.

    ❤️

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