@VersusGravity Please note: This discussion started as pro player controller aim assist. Not the daily rant on casual aim assist.
I have another analogy. Remember when in swimming everyone was wearing those full body suits? And then they banned them because pretty much every record got obliterated?
Why was every record breaking competitive swimmer wearing one? Pro *anything* should always have the best possible equipment for whatever they are doing.
"Bottom line, it's about selling cosmetics to casual gamers. It's not about being fair, or competitive, it's about selling crap."
Agreed. US is the biggest controller market. US is also the biggest country in terms of player numbers of roughly 40%. Next up is UK with around 7%.
Why would EA kill the milking cow? Is there a money making market for MnK Assetto Corsa? Not really so it doesnt really work out.
Funny sidenote: Last nights the infamous hacker destroyer2009 hacked TSM ImperialHal during ALGS regional finals who then continued to play with 100% aimbot but couldnt tell if he had aimbot on or not because he is so accustomed to short range one clips on his controller 😃
@Airish85Mouse IS the Pro equipment. You keep giving examples of tools that are better for the job, but not given artificial assistance. If mouse players were given the same amount of assist as controller players, then what device do you think pros would pick for tournaments? You'd never see a Controller used if that was the case.
None of us are Pros here, and I think the OP was outlining how Controller are out performing Mice at the top level. These forums are for the regular players.
@VersusGravity Wasnt the body suit "artificial assistance"? With olympics its different as its not organized by a stock company with shareholders insisting on profits.
Apex is just not that game. You need to accept that or switch to another game with no aim-assist.
I personally play MnK because thats how I want to play. For me Apex was never about competition.
Cant even do any of that movement magic 😃
@Airish85 wrote:@VersusGravity Wasnt the body suit "artificial assistance"? With olympics its different as its not organized by a stock company with shareholders insisting on profits.
Apex is just not that game. You need to accept that or switch to another game with no aim-assist.
I personally play MnK because thats how I want to play. For me Apex was never about competition.Cant even do any of that movement magic 😃
I don't understand your stance on this at all. I think that you are confused. You're a MnK player, yet defend the over tuned assist. Just weird.
Apex is my game as much it is anyone else's. They can tune the assist. It can be done. Literally changing a value within the code... Plus, every game is trending that way. It's a self perpetuating thing. If games are made easier to aim with Controllers, what's the incentive for people to get better with a mouse? I have friends that use both, but ultimately end up on Controller just because it's easier to be consistent. Then you have the issue of aim assist locking onto hit boxes, not character models, freeing up mental capacity, and not nearly as effected by visual clutter.
Your analogies aren't getting any better btw. Mine was spot on. Inferior input given assist to out perform what should be the optimal equipment for the job. Take away the assist, which is better for shooters? Pretty easy stuff.
PC shouldn't have assist in shooters. You want to be in the top ranking of a shooter on PC, then you should have to pick up MnK. Simple as that.
@Airish85
Your logic is such a mess.
Olympics is when all athletes start under the same conditions and show off their skills, and in this case, people with completely different conditions are grouped together.
To compare to baseball, left-handed hitters can use metal bats, and right-handed hitters have to use only wooden bats.
Would it be acceptable if this happened in real?
And it's not a competition for you, but it's basically a competition game. And the genre of battle royale, and the reason why rank exists is to compete.
And people want "fairness" for competition. They want to be free from factors that harm fairness, including boosting, Abusing, and Cheating. So is Aim assist. It's considered a factor that can hurt fairness enough from the perspective of KnM players. In fact, not only KnM, but each other is bound to be unfair in some way, regardless of which side is advantageous. How can there be fairness between them when it's a different environment from the start?
I'm also a KnM user and can't use tap-strapping or various movement techniques. However, I believe I can compete with higher opponents through my character's skills, positioning, and aiming training, so I keep playing this game. but Pad's aim assist makes them meaningless. that's too much powerful to deal with on them. that's too much.
If that's the appropriate level, why would anyone abandon the familiar KnM and switch to Pad? Even the pros.
@ratherplayfinals
"To compare to baseball, left-handed hitters can use metal bats, and right-handed hitters have to use only wooden bats.
Would it be acceptable if this happened in real?"
You are saying it like someone is not allowing you to switch to controller? If its superior then why not use it?
This is how every athlete would see it.
Bold of you to assume I would care of how I rank when playing Apex.
Playing cards with your kids is a competitive game if you play it like that. At the same time I can play Apex casually.
"why would anyone abandon the familiar KnM and switch to Pad?"
This where you go off tracks and probably is the reason why you are so persistent on this discussion. How does the kids born after 2000 get into gaming? Through consoles that cost couple hundread bucks. You cant even get proper gaming monitor with the same money. And consoles you play with controller.
So there is no abandoning the familiar KnM for Apex target audience. You are just coming from different background.
Future is now. Old MnK geezers like me are not the ones buying cosmetics.
I get where you are going and input based lobbies would be cool but Apex doesnt really have the player numbers for that.
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