A bit of a drama going around the professional scene of the game in the last 24 hours. Pro players/teams are datamining the game claiming that you can get better knowledge of the ring ending. Do you think the league should prohibit teams from doing this?As far as I know, as a person following leaks and datamined data, is that you can’t datamine where the ring will exactly end up BUT there is data where the rings would never end. Here’s an example from a thread I’ve made last February https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Know-your-end-circle/m-p/11275850#M198809The devs can place prohibited zones where the circle can never end on these spots of the map. There is no data where the circle will end since that’s an algorithm on the server side of things. On the other hand, you don’t really need this on the casual level since playing this game for more than 3 years you can guess where the game usually places the circle next.A good tip for casuals or newer players is that the ring WILL NEVER END on caves or inside of small buildings (areas that have a roof). This was mentioned in one of the patch notes in a past season. February datamine by Shrugtal which is most likely outdated at this point.

@Cheese9Man I thought this was known long ago? They even released an update at one point with information that zones will never end on an area with animals on SP.I've been saying for awhile there need to be more ending zones. More randomness. I'm getting a little tired of the same end games on worlds edge. It seems like every event there's an ending below the silos at overlook or on the hill outside skyhook. And they are so easy to predict as they always end on the same point. I realize they don't want an ending in a cave or building but there are tons of open areas endings never happen.

@Cro_Pittt*wears tinfoil cap*The game is so stale right now with low views that they might just be making unnecessary drama for the twitter retweets and likes.

Yet another pro-drama where I could not care less. I mean, SURE, you know, Respawn should work on making their pro-games as interesting as possible from a competitive standpoint, but it's pretty obvious that it involves a lot of making the game less fun for the majority of their player base (and money). Like, sorry, if it was a battle inside a cave or atop a building, that would be actually entertaining every once in a while.But GOD FORBID, a PRO PASSES A BRICK over it! Holy Hell, quick! Nerf it! Delete it! Change it!Seriously, people wonder why Apex took a hit in popularity, but don't admit the error Respawn. You fix those Gold Shield problems.Whatever, this game isn't that on top of things anymore. The circle thing is sort of like, oh, yeah, of course, that's a big issue for Respawn :P

@Cheese9Man That's the issue with SP tho. They don't use a big part of the areas they could due to the wildlife and because they just don't have other areas programmed in.Personally I'd also put buildings back into end games. If players don't want heal offs, go fight the other team.

@Cheese9Man It makes me sad zones will never end inside promenade or the other giant buildings on the new map.

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28 Replies

Cheese9Man
3 years ago
A SUS tweet from one of the Apex devs, Oscar Aguirre. https://twitter.com/oscreat/status/1597449934076542977?s=46&t=98RQkxmlrbWxJwOAY_w6FA
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@Cheese9Man I thought this was known long ago? They even released an update at one point with information that zones will never end on an area with animals on SP.

I've been saying for awhile there need to be more ending zones. More randomness. I'm getting a little tired of the same end games on worlds edge. It seems like every event there's an ending below the silos at overlook or on the hill outside skyhook. And they are so easy to predict as they always end on the same point. I realize they don't want an ending in a cave or building but there are tons of open areas endings never happen.
Cheese9Man
3 years ago
@hayhor Would rather have those you mentioned than the end circles on the open water in Storm Point. LOL.
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@Cheese9Man That's the issue with SP tho. They don't use a big part of the areas they could due to the wildlife and because they just don't have other areas programmed in.

Personally I'd also put buildings back into end games. If players don't want heal offs, go fight the other team.
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@Cheese9Man Oh and while we are talking about end zone changes can we switch the mechanic of the zone closing fully to be more like warzone where the zone closes to a certain point and then drifts?
Cheese9Man
3 years ago
Btw here are the updated zones.
Spoiler
Kyldenar
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
I feel like this is all stuff that @reconzero knows by heart...
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@Cheese9Man It makes me sad zones will never end inside promenade or the other giant buildings on the new map.
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Kyldenar

Oh, how well you know me.

Yeah, this is information that anyone can learn just by playing... if they're at least as focused on game mechanics as they are on gun mechanics. Which leaves out about 97% of players, but all the better for me. This is how you use position to your advantage, and sometimes even win exclusively because of it.
Cro_Pittt
3 years ago
@Cheese9Man Personally i'm ok with it, if the rules did not mention it was forbidden. But if they ban that specific team, Apex is dead lmao (at least on twitch).