Apex Legends Smurfing and Matchmaking
Apex Legends Smurfing and Matchmaking Smurfing needs to be made an Ip Bannable offense permanatly i see countless smurf's everyday I play and I'm getting literally sick and tired of it Matchmaking ...
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'they deserve to be able to one clip someone who hasn't put in the practice'
Hang on while I just quit my job, so I have time to do that. Sure who needs food, or to pay bills... And of course, every person that plays, plays to be the best - not just for fun or anything like that - who ever heard of something so insane as playing a game for fun?
@SewerTierGamer I work too, and I understand not everyone has time to practice like others. However, if someone puts in the work to be elite they deserve to win more than someone who does not. So your job, does someone who works hard deserve to be paid less or the same as someone who doesn’t? That’s literally what SBMM does to above average players. Are you in favor of everyone having the same win rate despite skill level? Why should my win rate be near the same as my fiancés when I’m a master pred skilled player and she’s never gotten out of plat?
- @lightning_5o I’m still waiting for someone to answer this.
@lightning_5o wrote:
@SewerTierGamerI work too, and I understand not everyone has time to practice like others. However, if someone puts in the work to be elite they deserve to win more than someone who does not. So your job, does someone who works hard deserve to be paid less or the same as someone who doesn’t? That’s literally what SBMM does to above average players. Are you in favor of everyone having the same win rate despite skill level? Why should my win rate be near the same as my fiancés when I’m a master pred skilled player and she’s never gotten out of plat?Because youre in division 1 and she is in division 6.
In football its the exact same thing, 6 division team can be the winner of the division with straight wins no losses.
Still the team in 1st division might be mediocre and have 3 draws and as many wins and losses, the 1st division team is still ranked much higher and is better then the division 6 team.
The 1st division team dudsies/womansies for sure put more work into the football too then the 6th division team and still they have lower winrate.
Explanation enough, see the real life resemblance?
To cater for the masters and diamonds who sweated blood to become what they are, the game needs to open diamon and master+ only content, as I for instance drew an example for in a different post I made a few days ago. I dont know any sports where a full division 1 or elite devision ranked person gets to go up against a mid division contender, its a reason for this.
@ZkepzWhile I appreciate the comparison to sports, I think everyone needs to take a step back and realize that playing pubs shouldn’t be compared to playing in a league with divisions. THAT would be ranked.
Pubs should be the equivalent of casually playing sports at the park with your friends or randoms. Pick up games.
High ELO players aren’t getting paid or getting scholarships. So demanding them to ALWAYS demonstrate a high level of competence, while simultaneously not rewarding them more is actually kind of ridiculous.
Not that I’m verbalizing this, but this is why certain people equate it to “everyone gets a trophy” culture. Personally, I’m okay with everyone getting a trophy, so long as the more competent people are getting MUCH bigger trophies. People having similar outcomes despite vastly different competence levels is what “aggressive socialism” is built on; its like a notion built on “anti-hierarchy”.
Again, how you are explaining this makes PERFECT sense for ranked. But pubs shouldn’t feel like ranked. Right now I occupy the bottom of the top ELO tier. Losing HUNDREDS of games in a row does not put me down into an easier tier. So I’m just locked in this solid cycle of losing that essentially informs me that my experience matters less than someone less competent than me. It just feels— wrong.Reason people flag pubs so high for safe space and so on is split.
1) it's legal to smurf freely in ranked, just see hideouts when he play, so far i only seen him play silver over and over again. This makes ranked the worst place for AVG players to play, they do not meet equal people.
2) recruitment to the game, my example is planetside 2 which is all without any sbmm. I started that, having an AVG survival time of 1,5 seconds after leaving safe spot it took forever to understand how to survive, but all my friends played for an hour and never came back. I have to say I am a bit of an s&m type so I force myself through these things to see if it gets good. The AVG player don't want this, not catering for these means game will die.
Thing is I get you really well, but I don't thing giving pissing righst is not the right thing as it would * off 90% of the player base but thinking about exclusive content for the top players would give a bigger prize and a proper reason to actualy play at your segment. This is my reasoning and what I think should happen, pushing for sbmm changes isn't really realistic as people would just transition to a new game really quickly.
Just look at Fortnite, they have the same. My daughter got a problem with her profile a couple of years ago so she made a new account while she waited to get back the main account. She hit more then 40 wins in a row, she even went full squads nofill just to get a bit challenge. So you can say more games cater to the same thinking , and for a reason. To have enough active player base to keep the game breathing and living.
Of course you could both have the same win rate - IN YOUR OWN LEVELS. Duh.
Do YOU think that NEW PLAYERS who are trying to ENJOY the game, should be stomped and made feel *, because you can't keep up IN YOUR OWN LEVEL.How hard a concept is it, to understand that it isn't o.k to make players feel like crap, because you want easy wins?
- @SewerTierGamer New players should ABSOLUTELY be protected. But after a certain experience level, SBMM should be more like how it was in Season 0-2
You keep saying "competent" which is pretty condescending. Let's not confuse competency with SKILL -- and the factors that come into said skill, such as free time to play as often as one can, coordinating and party communication with your pre-made squads, the rampant use of strike packs/Cronus add-ons/scuff/paddles with remapping/etc. Saying that only high skill players are "competent" is absolutely silly...but then again you brought up sOcIaLiSm and pArTiCiPaTiOn tRoPhIeS so now I can identify why you think you're so much more "competent" yet deserve to win more than others.
Also, no one is "punishing" you poor, picked upon high-skill players. Would it be fair for the Lakers to play against some random junior high basketball team? No. If you're one of the most "competent" players, you should be playing in your respective weight class. Anything else is you just wanting an easy win -- getting upset that you're not winning more than the person in bronze lobbies is so crybaby. If you can only win and have fun playing against people under your skill level...maybe you're not as "competent" as you think.
If you wanna brag about being the top dog, you should be ready to run amongst the other top dogs. Otherwise, you're just Kim Kardashian telling us peasants to just get up and work hard.
- @SewerTierGamer when did I say I want to stomp new players? I don’t. So once again you think it’s fair that I’m ten times better than a gold player but I don’t win more often than a gold player? You’re literally the epitome of participation trophy you’re right everyone should win equally no matter what even if someone works harder than the other it doesn’t matter everyone needs to be a winner too. Got it buddy. And for the record I can more than keep up in my level, my biggest complain is I can’t play with my friends or fiancé bc they get steam rolled in my lobbies. Strict SBMM protects bad players that’s why you defend it. You’re right the person who has worked harder shouldn’t be rewarded for it that’s not fair. Next time you want a raise at work remember you’re being unfair to anyone who is lazier and makes less than you
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