demotion from diamond when u playing against preds is not fair ;(((

@maximas1986 it's not that it's impossible it's just that respawn is scared of trying it. Literally every game out there that considers itself competitive often has a separate queue for solo and full squads. Only in apex have I seen a rank system where solo players can get matched with full squads.

@rudness-is-cheap actually it's utterly unfair as preds 90% of times come in stacks.rarely to see randoms in pred lobbies.but .....I do now understand the point of it.it's as simple as that, if you can not fight them then you don't join them.I believe the solution is to separate solo queuers from 3 stacking, which is an impossible thing to do.so nothing can be done, either you rise up to their level or just sit in the rank that you earned.the best solution is to find good consistent teammates and level up your gameplay and get that sweet rank that you deserve 🙂Ps: am not a pred or a very good player, not even close

@swift07 He won. Ranked no worky if you get 0rp from a win. 0 kills or 57 kills, doesn't matter. A win should never be 0rp.

@CCbathwater Saw this one too in the replies. LOL.

@Daze623 wrote:@maximas1986it's not that it's impossible it's just that respawn is scared of trying it. Literally every game out there that considers itself competitive often has a separate queue for solo and full squads. Only in apex have I seen a rank system where solo players can get matched with full squads.Not disagreeing with you but Respawn has been stern with their stand that short queue times will always be their priority. As for other games, 60 player lobbies is harder to fill compared to your usual 5v5 multiplayer games.

Apex rank system is totaly not fair ;(

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maximas1986
3 years ago
@rudness-is-cheap actually it's utterly unfair as preds 90% of times come in stacks.
rarely to see randoms in pred lobbies.
but .....I do now understand the point of it.
it's as simple as that, if you can not fight them then you don't join them.
I believe the solution is to separate solo queuers from 3 stacking, which is an impossible thing to do.
so nothing can be done, either you rise up to their level or just sit in the rank that you earned.
the best solution is to find good consistent teammates and level up your gameplay and get that sweet rank that you deserve 🙂
Ps: am not a pred or a very good player, not even close
Daze623
3 years ago
@maximas1986 it's not that it's impossible it's just that respawn is scared of trying it. Literally every game out there that considers itself competitive often has a separate queue for solo and full squads. Only in apex have I seen a rank system where solo players can get matched with full squads.
maximas1986
3 years ago
@Daze623 you are right but it's impossible to do for pred rank because they set only 750 of them so matchmaking will take ages to start a match.
they made this rank so prestigious that only a very very few can get to it (most of them are cheaters) 🙂.
so that's the price we are the ones who are paying unfortunately
Cheese9Man
3 years ago
@Daze623 wrote:
@maximas1986it's not that it's impossible it's just that respawn is scared of trying it. Literally every game out there that considers itself competitive often has a separate queue for solo and full squads. Only in apex have I seen a rank system where solo players can get matched with full squads.
Not disagreeing with you but Respawn has been stern with their stand that short queue times will always be their priority. As for other games, 60 player lobbies is harder to fill compared to your usual 5v5 multiplayer games.
swift07
3 years ago
this can all be resolved by increasing the amount of masters or even preds. It's not that complicated. If there were say 5K masters and 1K preds, instead of 500 and 750 respectively, there wouldn't be an issue of having to pull diamond players into their lobbies. If there is, then maybe pull diamond 1 or 2 only. If you're masters, diamond 1 or 2, you shouldn't complain about playing against preds. If you're at that place in the game, obviously you're a good player and shouldn't shy away from the challenge. Also, if they kill a pred, they would be awarded more points. But, I think 5K masters and 1K preds should be plenty to have decent que times.
HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@swift07 The data they showed at the beginning of this season showed far less upper ranked players than before & they made only minor changes to the system. I think the distribution across ranks is what they want but feels very thin at the top to me.
swift07
3 years ago
@HappyHourSumwuryes, that is the issue. Why don't they distribute as a percentage of the playerbase who falls into what rank. If there are 500K people playing ranked, make preds top .05% and masters 10% or whatever. Currently, people are not able to reach masters because they don't have enough points, but if it was percentage, it would fill up.
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@swift07 I think the OP would still complain tho. He would be the masters player who dies to better masters players and preds.

I do agree tho the MM was a lot better before season 13 when it was easier to climb.
CCbathwater
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
Wdym? It's perfectly fair. 😂😂
(From ImperialHal's twitter)
swift07
3 years ago
@hayhor The OP said he got demoted from diamond to plat. So there's a good chance they won't be masters if it was 10%. They could do less than 10% as well and I think there will be enough people to fill pred/masters lobbies.