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4 years ago

Arena abandon penalty

It didn’t find anything about it in the patch notes and I wonder if there is such a thing… imagine if you lose once and your teammates left the match, I mean it really wouldn’t be pleasant to play 1 ...

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Alphabets

4 years ago

@Vdstrk Honestly I think if they made it 4 vs 4, it was easier to deal with one or two leavers, but when they make it 3vs3 it only brings back “mirage Christmas tree” memories, when most players left the match and their teams at the middle of the game… it’s not fun for enemy team either

The mentality of a leaver is: “this team/round is trash, let’s start with a new one”, but if they can’t start right away and they get banned for 5 min, that might fix that issue, (they either have to play for 5 min in a “bad team” or stay out of the match for 5 min)

Vdstrk

Seasoned Ace

4 years ago

@Alphabets

Definitely leaving has an impact on the game of some players. But I have seen people solo to victory often enough to know that it is possible.

What if someone has a bad connection? Devs spoke about trying to not penalize players with a bad connection, when talking about lag compensation. So I would guess that Devs would not really push for a leaver penalty in pubs, when players are allowed to join games with a latency of 250ms, feel the game performing poorly and consequently wish to leave a match and look for another one which with a little luck may be on a closer server? Not all areas are serviced equally.

https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/servers-netcode-developer-deep-dive

See the part on lag compensation.

Also, sure that is the mentality --but Apex is only a casual game. Devs develop it around the casual player. Sure there are competitive aspects, but are not really supported as they are in other games made to be competitive,see for example Valorant.

Perhaps matchmaking needs be done better too? But this, again, would imply that devs want to attract a limited audience made of players who can afford to take the game more seriously.

Yeah in a potential Ranked mode Arena, something to stop leavers would be appropriate.

Alphabets
4 years ago
@Vdstrk About matchmaking that you mentioned, the failed to fix that in the past two years because they don’t have enough high skill players (to play at the same time on the same server), so we can’t count on that at all. SBMM is a big lie to be fair, it’s like Loba’s bracelet which every season they say it’s fixed, but it’s proven the opposite XD
- Vdstrk
  Seasoned Ace
  4 years ago
  @Alphabets
  
  My gripe with the game is the following. I like the movement, how the game plays mechanically. I think it is very satisfying.
  Unfortunately it is a hero based game, so it will never be balanced. A legend will always either be a bit better, or never good enough.
  Also, they keep pushing a meta over another one. Once guns are balanced, why pressuring players to use/not to use a specific gun?
  
  And after all, I just end up where I started. The game caters to the casual player. Aims at selling skins, offers great mechanics, but is poorly implemented if your interests are more than just "skin" deep.
  Ranked has no demotion. Some cheaters cannot be banned. SBMM is not really skill based unless speed of match is a skill. Fixes that should have happened from the get-go, like hitboxes, are made in season 8/9, when everyone has adjusted to those changes (I guess everyone has the heirloom, and all skins for wraith, at least the majority must do so the character is non profitable anymore).
  
  I think that IF I'm gonna play Apex, then I better know that it is a casual game, and just not expect anything if I queue solo, because the quality of my random team mates is more likely to be on average the casual player who quits when he's down, or just spends an abnormal amount of time looting, cannot hit the broadside of a barn, cannot provide you with cover fire even if you are asking for itr, or put a bubble on you when you are self reviving, etc. etc. etc. (not even considering timing a push, when to push, when disengage, positioning etc). But when I get the right team mates, approximately 3.5/4% of the times at best, I have fun getting towards the end of the match.
  
  I have a solution for all the above, which is becoming so good at Apex as to be able to carry the UN-CARRY-ABLE to the last circle as often as humanly possible.
  Unfortunately so far, I have not discovered how to transcend to a better version of myself --gaming wise.
  - Alphabets
    4 years ago
    @Vdstrk It’s a nice positive thinking, and I respect that you want to improve; however, I still think since it’s a team game and there is no “solo mode” (unless you want to play solo agains teams of 3) and since matchmaking is all based on the algorithms, it’s logical to expect to get similar skilled teammates and also look for methods to keep teammates to play as a team instead of leaving. We have players/streamers who get to masters from bronze just alone, without depending on a team, but that is their life or job, they play 24/7
hayhor
Hero
4 years ago
@Vdstrk Every game has a quitter issue.

Must be a thing in valorant too-

https://dotesports.com/valorant/news/valorant-devs-add-penalties-afk-dodging-ranked-toxic-patch-2-05