Average players with godlike aim
Last few days I’m getting placed in lobbies of average players with average amount of kills and average badges, who all seem to have better aim than shroud. They do NOT miss a bullet. I just played ...
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@matzesingt I dont care about the whole AA workings, all i care about is that its is an automatic which can be abused and thus lobbies should not be mixed in the 1st place or the Assitance should be turned of in mixed environments. Assisted and non-assisted crossplay should have been the credo from the beginning. would have saved us from the everlasting discussions
@r1ggedgame And PC capped to 60Hz, no MnK, and no configs when in console Mixtape? Yeah, okay.
@CCbathwaterwhat has this to do with the automatic ? nothing ... i want assist free lobbies for competitive integrity, plain and simple ... has nothing to do with movement, frames, configs or else. but we know from the past that the topic will always get shifted if the arguments run out ... and it should not be possible in the 1st place to get into console lobbies , thats some bug that gets abused but isnt really part of the topic ...
- @r1ggedgame What I said.
Good, and I want the same in my lobbies, competitive integrity, which is impossible when Respawn (intentionally) caps us at 60Hz, limit input use, etc., and then just sit back for 4 seasons, not patching whatever hole in MM the PC's use to get into console Mixtape. Number 1 issue in the game.
Anyway back to reporting PC's in Mixtape. - @CCbathwater i dont think thats on intention with the 60 FPS, the engine is just such a mess to optimize for both consoles, hell even on my rigg the fps drop to under a hundered at times. im fully with you that preventing pc in console lobbies should be a top priority, another point against the stupid crossplay ... would not be possible if there wasnt crossplay at all
@r1ggedgame @CCbathwater
My son just started playing Apex on his Xbox and I have to agree with you.He only plays mixtape at the moment.
Performs well playing alone thanks to playing lot of shooters prior to this.
Whenever we play together (I am on MnK) he gets absolutely destroyed in those mixed lobbies.Could also be that my MMR is making the lobbies so hard or there is that big of difference in gameplay (my old eyes wont see a difference between 60 vs 120fps).
I am even considering making a smurf account to test if its the MMR because its really night & day. To put it short: Playing together makes him miserable.
Playing PvP shooters (Unreal tournament + Enemy Territory) with my dad was something I really loved as teenager myself so I would really appreciate it could be something we can both enjoy & have fun time together. And I know its not a skill issue on his side as he can whoop me 20-0 on Fortnite nobuilds playing on Xbox.Was really excited about Crossplay in Apex at first because of above. I am not an expert on how to make it more balanced but something should be done to level the playing field.
Why don't you try Rogue Company with your son? It's an arena shooter and as far as I know it's available for console and MnK. I play a lot of "Strikeout" in PUBS. It's not perfect, but it feels fairer than S17 in Apex (I haven't played Apex since).
I have the same issues with my two sons. Who are gods at FPS games. They both play on MnK. Before that they played on console with me and everything seems fine. Now I can't even play with them in their lobbies because I am decimated in point of a second, game after game after game by MnK players.
So how its that possible if console AA is everything? Why am I not able to at least play as well in Mnk lobbies as I do in my console only lobbies, if not miles better because my AA should decimate MnK players with ease? How is it that I have an more balanced time against players with AA assist on console, than against MnK whom have none?
Is Rogue Company cross play, or do they separate the two inputs?
@ComicBookGuy2727. "So how its that possible if console AA is everything?"
Don't know. I had someone on Twitch the other day claim that when console players go to PC BR they get capped at 0.4. I was like, when did that happen? But he was very adamant about it.
Which, if true, then makes it even more infuriating that PC's in console Mixtape get capped by absolutely nothing.- @CCbathwater That person on twitch was wrong. It doesn't do that.
- @hayhor Hadn't heard of this either. But I don't really read patch notes anymore, so they could have changed it without me knowing.
that was a bug some seasons ago, was fixed right away but there was some type of outcry
- @r1ggedgame There was a bug that changed it to .4 for everything, even console only lobbies. It is noticeable. There have also been bugs recently that fully disabled AA. I'm surprised there haven't been more threads about that.
According to this website https://crossplaygames.com/games/rogue-company it's crossplay and I believe it is. Anyway, I can't choose a MnK or console lobby or disable crossplay. Unfortunately, the devices (PC or console) are not displayed for the other players.
As I said, it's not perfect and I report any opponent that seems suspicious to me. I think the reporting system is pretty good. The same goes for the option to end the round prematurely by giving up (but only if the majority of your group wants to do so).
Just try it out a few times and give it a real chance. What's the worst that can happen? If you really don't like it, you can delete it again. But if I go by the numbers on Steam charts, a few extra PC players would be nice. 😉
For me, it's a good alternative for now.
Thank you for the info and reply...I think I will definitely try and convince my son to give it a go with me. Maybe we can have some fun again.
Again...thank you!
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