Dodgy servers
Want to know if people are having trouble playing the game atm, trying to play ranked here and I keep ending on bad servers that make me lag out of existence. My ping is fine, I checked if I joined w...
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@DoYaSeeMe If the information was being sent one way to confirm an action but now has to send it back and forth leading to a delay and slow response then surely you'd increase the speed in which the information is sent backend as best you could and possible in their power (within acceptable costs) if it's negatively effecting gameplay to a lot of users. It's not exactly a silent issue and i'm sure future updates will continue to add to the problem.
There comes a point if you're a streamer where your old gtx550ti isn't running things smoothly and you know that your hardware can't run a game properly even on low settings anymore and time to fork out a few hundred bucks to upgrade because people don't want to watch a stream at 10fps.. Same can be said of normal users but streamers have an audience just like this game.
They said themselves they expected 200k players but have millions with enough data over past 2 years to know the flow of concurrent and returning players each season. Surely they could say they're aware of these issues and do something to provide a better experience as it's also effecting them in advertisement too with most PC streamers i know of and those that compete in ALGS often showing the problems i mentioned and put others off from investing in the game. It's why i put that upgrade thread up because i personally know hundreds who would love to actually hear that from them, and very likely many, many thousands in all. I even got @MandatoryIDtag with it! (proud moment and salt in old wound) 😛
With such aggressive monetisation that's obviously successful and they still persist in shoving down our throats every collection event which comes across as their main focus with lack of content updates since launch, excluding those few and far between and minor changes, i don't think it's unreasonable to expect a half decent service when just one cosmetic item cost 3/4x the price of a AAA game and the average at nearly 20 bucks that they're obviously selling pretty well, let alone all the rest. Cost and compromise, sure.. but it needs doing now imo.
@apostolateofDOOM playing gold ranked with youngtree over the last few days on the London server and the lag was horrible at the start of most matches until numbers were down to about 10 squads. It was consistently odd.
Yt was on pc and on my xbox I was getting at least 4 of the red warning indicators.
There was no issue with my Internet speeds!
@OldTreeCreeper Maybe you had mainland European players on the server and experiencing packet delays on the border due to brexit? 😛
My solo rank grind was awful this season. At times it's reasonable playable but the game just feels sluggish, bloated and frankly horrendous on the whole now. I honestly don't mind these things in most genres but FPS i want quality and responsiveness above anything pretty and shiny.
@apostolateofDOOM it's probably all those customs forms they have to fill out that's causing the lag 😃
As an interesting side note the kc games I played recently when it started again, had a very fast and fluid feeling, with no lag and were a joy to play.
I have often wondered if latency can build up in a server, much like it can on a WiFi extender or router. The simple solution there is to unplug the extender for a few seconds and then plug it back in, good to go. If not a quick reset does the job.
Anyone know if servers need defragmentation? Have to do that on youngtree's pc after every update to keep it running smoothly. Minor defrag every update, defragmented files only, major defrag every 2 months or so, complete drive defrag, using defraggler not the windows one. Game files are on a seperate drive to the os.
- @OldTreeCreeper Servers work differently than the usual client PCs. Normally, they host more matches, from dozens to hundreds, depending on the game. For this, they use a lot more CPU cores and a big amount of RAM. They don't do the rendering part, so most things related to graphics aren't loaded. It's just the hitboxes and coordinates that they care about primarily, to calculate interaction, positioning, maybe some physics, etc.., other stuff like textures and sounds are just id's that they pass back and forth (so that player X know what skin is used by Y, what he pings or what quip he's playing, for example).
It's all about processing, so the typical defragmentation would have hardly any effect on the server. Defragmentation is used to improve the speed of reading data from the drive, usually to load it to RAM, but game servers load almost everything they need at the start of the game, otherwise they would be very unstable under load.
Because the number of players in an Apex match is big, this can make processing time take a lot, but also require more data to be sent per update. These go down significantly as players get eliminated, which is why the second half of most matches feels much smoother. - @DoYaSeeMe That's very interesting and explains the game lag easing up in the second half of the ranked games, but does that not also imply that the servers are deliberately overloaded from the beginning? Possibly a cost issue?
I've also noticed having played a lot of ranked this season, that the que times are longer with more players in the que, up to 500 but generally 100-200. Another cost saving? This does not compare to say the normal trios where it usually counts up to 60 and off we go. @DoYaSeeMe
Did I understand correctly, is this really about hard disk defragmentation?
They don't use ssd's for servers?!
Just in Case a CEO is reading that... we life in 2021!- @OldTreeCreeper No one would do such thing deliberately and the hybrid cloud solution is designed to eliminate the problems that happen when the server capacity limit is reached. But the huge surge in internet traffic caused by the pandemic has affected both server availability and connection quality.
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