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jokool_aid's avatar
4 years ago
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For God's sake...stop dropping in fragments!

I am, once again, at my wits end in with World's Edge and, more specifically, fragments... I love just about every part of this map except for fragments because I enjoy what this map has to offer. Unfortunately, 99.9% of matches on this map are all focused in the middle with that damn fragmented city, so it's impossible to enjoy the rest of the map.... You almost always see 15-20 squads drop there, including yours (no matter how much you protest...), most of them crammed into those crumbling buildings by the lava fissure on the east side..... If you're lucky and can drop somewhere else, odds are your teammates will either break off solo and die at fragments or just run off after grabbing the first thing they see in the spot you picked and die at fragments.....

I've said this at least a dozen or more times on here, so I'm just beating a dead horse at this point... I know I'm not alone in being frustrated with fragments, so for God's sake...please stop dropping in fragments and take some time to enjoy the rest of this map for once...

And devs? I really hope you do something dramatic to fragments in the future. It really needs the Skull Town treatment, and it would fit in just fine lore-wise, given how it's already on the brink of collapsing into the lava, just give it that final push and finish it off...

  • Hot dropping is not what the devs/mode's intention on how people should play BR but trigger happy players will always go to where there are people. Even if you remove the whole of fragment, people will just migrate to the next big POI and that will be the new hot drop (probably Lava Siphon). You can see this in Olympus where people drop to the nearest hot drop depending on the drop ship. If the dropship starts near Bonsai, then at least 5-10 squads will drop there. Same goes if the drop ship starts at the side of the PowerGrid/Fight Night area or Estates. 

    Again, I'm not saying that hot dropping in fragment is the way you should play BR pubs but this could be the reason why. I'll share why my friends and I hot drop in fragment. We drop in fragment with no intention to win the whole game but to just kill people. Since there's no TDM-like mode in apex where you can just shoot shoot shoot, this is the only casual way of playing for some. Same goes when we drop in Estates in Olympus (I miss this map so much) where it's like a mini game inside the game who would be the last man standing in that POI. I'm not defending hot droppers I'm just stating a possible reason why they're doing it. With that, we definitely need a more casual mode in apex like what Winter Express is where you can just shoot. Even though we drop at fragment 60-70% of our pub games, we're not dumb enough to go to the streamer building on drop where the RNG would determine your fate. Market, broken, construction, and 4 stories is the better half of Fragment. Hot dropping in my case is something unanimously decided since I'm in a pre-made squad and something that I don't do when I soloQ. I drop at semi-hot drops like countdow, lava siphon or launch site in WE.

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  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
    Hero
    4 years ago
    @CocoaHyena Ah the old pubs isn't competitive argument. I could obviously argue that practicing apex is more than fighting. Hot dropping teaches you to fight but nothing else. No rotations. No ability to properly 3rd a fight or get out of a fight, which in the highest levels of ranked really become important factors.

    So considering that, hot dropping is still poor. The only real reason people do it is badge chasing. And let's face it, most people's high damage and kill games come after a series of really bad games, when their lobby suddenly becomes easier.
  • OldTreeCreeper's avatar
    OldTreeCreeper
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    @Cheese9Man I've been thinking about it and there's not much that will stop hot drop Henry and friends unless the drop ship has seperate drop times and landing locations per squad, preset by random selection. Kinda like dividing the map up with barriers for a minute to allow everyone to kit up and then start to move. But I can't see that happening. 

  • I see this "problem" posted on a regular basis.

    In my experience this almost never happens.  The number of times I've dropped in Fragment West I can probably count on one hand.  I did it once as my brother pinged it as he was taking the * and didn't believe me it was a bad place to land.  We were in the lobby within 30 seconds.

    It's like everyone complaining about Diamonds and Preds in their lobbies.  It's very rare that really seems to happen (and given the share of the playing base that falls into that category, it will be rare as it's a pretty small crowd - Statistically speaking this *must* be true).

    Not sure what to make of all this.  Anyone else feel this way?

  • OldTreeCreeper's avatar
    OldTreeCreeper
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    @Cheese9Man there was a serious hot drop called tilted towers a few seasons back in a previous map, have seen up to 20 of 100 hitting it in solo) . Since then there hasn't been such a large poi. But I think it may be making a comeback and is hidden under the ice at the moment and will reappear once the ice melts. So it will be interesting to see what happens. 

    Fortnite poi's are smaller and more spread out so you get a much wider spread in the drop. In squad pubs 2 maby 3 or 4 squads going to the same poi, but really nowhere gets really congested like fragment. Same in duo, solos you might have 8-10 hitting the same poi. Loot is more spread out too, found almost anywhere. 

    I did grind up to champion level in fortnite ranked and what I noticed was that up to 85 out of the 100 dropped in the first half of the bus's flight path. The numbers dropped rapidly in the first few minutes, points for kills. That was solo and again what was left seemed very spred out.

    I guess the larger the poi the more will center on it. I've had 20 kills solo in squads (not a Smurf account 😃) , but there are no badges or rewards for kills so the focus is very much on the br win. Leader boards also seem to focus on the win numbers. They now have a new emote that is a counter for 2 wins in a row. 

  • If they can remove skull town, they can remove fragment. My fingers are crossed personally 

  • aisthebestletter's avatar
    aisthebestletter
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    I kid you not, I just had 6 games in a row where the jumpmaster dropped fragment. I quit each one before landing. I'm seriously done with this map. 

  • OldTreeCreeper's avatar
    OldTreeCreeper
    Hero+
    4 years ago

    @aisthebestletter I refuse to quit, and go for a wander. You have 5 seconds to press jump solo, that's plenty of warning to the jm to choose a better drop, but they don't, even in ranked. 

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