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pandareno1999's avatar
pandareno1999
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3 years ago

Intriguing tweet from Samy Duc regarding SBMM changes

Surely this is the red hot topic at the moment, particularly on this forum.  Tweet regarding potential SBMM changes coming, from Samy Duc in reply to Snip3down. If this comes to pass, it sounds like ...
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LaughingSharko's avatar
LaughingSharko
3 years ago

@Kyldenar This deserves to be the answer to this thread. Or to every thread, honestly. Lol.

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Gabrielmojo26
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3 years ago

Hold up, so if it’s set to the max based off one player, and I constantly get matched with two obvious lower skilled players, how are they supposed to make a significant difference going up against pre-made masters. If this isn’t solid proof to anyone solo queuing being at a clear disadvantage from the get go, I don’t know what is. This is both enlightening, but very, very disheartening to read. Here I was all this time thinking it was a group average.

  • TTZ_Dipsy's avatar
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    3 years ago

    SBMM is wild, man, I swear; We can try to make constant tweaks to thr best of our ability but I doubt there will ever be a point everyone will be happy with it

  • hayhor's avatar
    hayhor
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    3 years ago
    @Gabrielmojo26 The response has more to do with premades. We've all known for awhile a premade team went by the highest sbmm rated player and were put in premade lobbies. Anyone thats spent time playing with friends knew this.

    I'm curious what the fix is going to be. If they try to group premades correctly but keep them in premade lobbies, the queue time will go up. So I think you as a solo queue player may suffer more because you'll be seeing more premade teams.
    • pandareno1999's avatar
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      3 years ago

      @hayhor

      I'm really hopeful at the prospect that this might make playing with my friends a less painful experience. It could potentially make it worse. So far this split, I'm just playing ranked with my friends so we are not 100% of the time put into lobbies against three kill grinding sweat premades.

      In any event, I'm very happy to see Respawn trynig to make an effort to actually fix some of the broken aspects of matchmaking.   I hope they will devote similar attention to the problems in ranked.

      My thanks to those of you who chose to actually discuss the subject of this thread, which is matchmaking. And I'm very disappointed in some people's choice to make this thread an opportunity to grind their axes about pro players and content creators.  That response makes me disinclined to bring news of interest to the forum at all.

      • hayhor's avatar
        hayhor
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        3 years ago
        @pandareno1999 Oh I'm with you. Anything that encourages squading should be embraced. My concern is it may hurt the solo q experience.
    • CCbathwater's avatar
      CCbathwater
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      3 years ago
      @hayhor I don't care about premade teams. They're not the issue. As long as their combined skill lvl match or is lower than my soloQ team's combined skill lvl. It's only a problem when I get Mr. and Mrs. Fragment or teammates enrolled in the 200 dmg club, while these Diamond+ 3-stacking ******* are all in my lobby. Lobbies should just be fair, that's all that interest me. If I get two noobs, I should play a lobby full of "1 me and 2 noobs" teams, or at least within a certain parametre of my team's lvl. Just stop giving me two *** **** squishy guns in a Diamond+ 3-stack lobby!
      • hayhor's avatar
        hayhor
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        3 years ago
        @CCbathwater Yes that would be fine but let's say you're a 1 kd player solo queueing. A premade of those same skill players may kill your team of randoms just due to better communication. Right now most of the time those premades are dumped into higher skill lobbies.
    • Gabrielmojo26's avatar
      Gabrielmojo26
      Seasoned Ace
      3 years ago
      @hayhor I don't think it's necessarily about pre-mades, but more so that it's solely based off one player.

      If I'm a high Diamond solo queue player, my chances of getting matched with a master, or pred, are minimal as opposed to being the higher skilled player matched with two lower skilled ones.

      That being said, 8 out of 10 games, I'm automatically babysitting two teammates just because I'm a solo queue player with decent skills at Apex, no wonder the solo queue experience is a chore 80% of the time.
      • hayhor's avatar
        hayhor
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        3 years ago
        @Gabrielmojo26 Snipe specifically complained about premades. The dev specifically responded to snipe about how premades are defined. The post is about premades. My comments are how the change may affect solo queuers. It may be a negative for solo q.

        Season 13 the pubs MM was a lot stricter the first half for solo queuers. I myself had better teammates but the lobbies were significantly harder because everyone in them was diamond and up. For some reason they changed it back later in season 13.
  • DankToliet's avatar
    DankToliet
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago
    @Gabrielmojo26 wrote:

    Hold up, so if it’s set to the max based off one player, and I constantly get matched with two obvious lower skilled players, how are they supposed to make a significant difference going up against pre-made masters. If this isn’t solid proof to anyone solo queuing being at a clear disadvantage from the get go, I don’t know what is. This is both enlightening, but very, very disheartening to read. Here I was all this time thinking it was a group average.

    Wondered the same thing, I am constantly getting matched up with what seems like day 1 players that don't know how to ping, don't even pick up blue shields, don't rez. I made Masters presplit last season and the randoms I get matched with have the skill of a dead mouse. 

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