@Mwalker85 wrote:People clearly using keyboard and mouse on consol (xbox). There is a defeat device currently for xbox to trick the system to believe they are playing with controller. these people can't cut it in the PC world,so they decide to come over and play against controllers... It's cheating and I have countless videos of people clearly using keyboard and mouse. It is slowly ruining the game on consol. Clearly they people are garbage against there own peers (PC) whats the reason they are coming over to play on consol?
Not this discussion again........this horse has been beaten already on the PubG forums since launch.
It's truly an easy scapegoat to say you lost to m&k rather than your own skill at the game.
Please indulge us how you can tell someone is using one. I assume the guy on Ps4 who just set the 34kill record is using one too.
PuBG Corp did the research when the game was at it's highest, and less than 1% of the population were suspected of using them.
Are you also upset some people are using the Xbox Adaptive Controller to play as well?
It's really quite simple.. its the mouse shake that gives it away in the videos.. and then the player actually admitting it when questioned... There are players with over 10,000 kills on xbox already.. and when you watch some of there clips its extremely easy to see it...you sound like a keyboard and mouser yourself.... stick to PC even if you are garbage at it... Also listen to Joe Rogans podcast even him and his guest are talking about how hes going on xbox with the defeat device and owning everyone...
@Mwalker85 wrote:It's really quite simple.. its the mouse shake that gives it away in the videos.. and then the player actually admitting it when questioned... There are players with over 10,000 kills on xbox already.. and when you watch some of there clips its extremely easy to see it...you sound like a keyboard and mouser yourself.... stick to PC even if you are garbage at it... Also listen to Joe Rogans podcast even him and his guest are talking about how hes going on xbox with the defeat device and owning everyone...
I don't use m/k, just because I have an opinion that doesn't align with yours you immediately become an accuser?
I play with an Xbox Elite and I use all 4 additional paddles. I have very loose aiming as the Elite allows you to customize even the analog sticks sensitivity zones.
I like to aim with my right stick, alot of bad console players just strafe to aim.
lol I have yet to see a mnk have been accused of it multiple times on console sorry you are bad at the game but quit blaming shady stuff for your death you just suck it is what it is
@DankToliet wrote:It's truly an easy scapegoat to say you lost to m&k rather than your own skill at the game.
It's easy to say you lost to a mouse and keyboard, but it's just as easy to beat everyone else on a console with a mouse as keyboard.
Sure, it might be an excuse in some cases, but the fact that it exists makes it possible to use as an excuse.
It's the same as a game over run with cheaters, it's easy to blame your loses on cheaters, but it's just as easy to be one.
I just don’t understand why these game developers like PUBG, Cod, and now Apex don’t just enable native m/k. Let people choice what to play with and leave it at that. Controller players admit that controllers are inferior and at a disadvantage but refuse to put them down. Sounds like a personal problem to me. You will gain way more players that will come from PC to console for the sole reason they are tired of the PC hack and cheats then you will lose that quit because they won’t put down a controller. If they do quit. BYE!
@Psyrecx wrote:
@DankToliet wrote:It's truly an easy scapegoat to say you lost to m&k rather than your own skill at the game.
It's easy to say you lost to a mouse and keyboard, but it's just as easy to beat everyone else on a console with a mouse as keyboard.
Sure, it might be an excuse in some cases, but the fact that it exists makes it possible to use as an excuse.
It's the same as a game over run with cheaters, it's easy to blame your loses on cheaters, but it's just as easy to be one.
@Psyrecx wrote:
@DankToliet wrote:It's truly an easy scapegoat to say you lost to m&k rather than your own skill at the game.
It's easy to say you lost to a mouse and keyboard, but it's just as easy to beat everyone else on a console with a mouse as keyboard.
Sure, it might be an excuse in some cases, but the fact that it exists makes it possible to use as an excuse.
It's the same as a game over run with cheaters, it's easy to blame your loses on cheaters, but it's just as easy to be one.
What if you lost your thumb in a freak accident? Since you are unable to use the right analog stick, should you be forced to abandon your friends and forced to spend hundreds/thousands of dollar on a PC and buy all your games all over again?
I support m&k for the sole reason of preference. Lettings others play how they prefer within reason of course.
If you do the smallest amount of research, watch a 10min video on YouTube from the owner/developer himself of Xim, you can easily see there is ZERO extra advantages. Sure you can map your buttons, you can also with the Elite, Scuf, and Wolverine.
The claim that you get zero recoil is absurb with this devices. The Xim is an emulator, which means the maximum amount of control and sensitivity you have with a controller is also the maximum amount you can have with the mouse.
The claim you can aim better/snap to targets easier, that's 100% based on ones experience with a mouse or controller.
You also got to realize that since the m&k is plugged into a usb port, which has the controller as well..There is some slight input delay, sure it may be a millisecond or so but any professional gamer knows a ms can make a world of difference.
With Microsoft enabling more and more games with mk support, and also releasing devices like the Xbox Adaptive Controller (you could hook a USB toaster up to that thing) as long as all these devices i.e m&k, Scuf,Razr,Madcatz,Hori,etc stay within the sandbox rules I see no reason to be upset. That's like telling others they cannot use inverted controls because it's easier to look up, for that person.
I highly suggest you and others take a tiny amount of time and do some actual research. Of all things to worry about console, Xim is actually one of least threatening concern out there. If you don't think there people using modded console, lag switches and even DDoS attacks you're nuts. You could even argue that red dot sticker you put in the middle of your TV gives an unfair advantage.
