On 6 separate accounts, I have the current same results:Performing well in Mixtape will impact your BR MMR rating and give you sweatier lobbies. One of the 5 accounts on which this is tested provides me the most clear evidence. I currently have an account with 500+ deaths and no damage and no kills. Performing well on this account in Mixtape then switching to BR puts me in lobbies with Master and Pred trails, and many Diamond trails (despite my BR stats reading as 0)The same is true for the other accounts. Losing 50-60 games with under 100 damage and early elimination will drop me into weaker BR lobbies, but this is altered the moment I do well in Mixtape, where I am instantly put back in lobbies that are majority Masters players.

@Airish85 There's a difference between being in lesser lobbies and the 'right' lobbies. Too many people think the 'right' lobbies mean they are guaranteed to get some kills and/or win a game. In 5 to 10 games it is really easy to have a few unlucky, a few where the person made poor plays and a few where they just got outplayed by similarly skilled opponents. Sometimes people need to really look at what happened. It's the only way to improve.

@Airish85 1- I never said the MM is good right now. The whole pairing of one great player with a mediocre and low skill level team is poor.2- The MM blog post talked most about premades so if you are solo q, it probably does not affect you as much.3- We have no idea if the new MM is even on all servers yet.4- From what I can tell the new MM has not rolled out on servers I play. The above still happens.My point still stands that it isn't the MM that kills people every match. But like AA to mnk people or my legend is underpowered it is a crutch people cling to instead of looking in the mirror. I make excuses for my deaths too.

@Axs5626Sxa5001 I agree that mixtape affects the rest. What's weird tho is mixtape seems to be fairly random for me. To the point I tend to perform at a high level on almost every team I'm on in it. I see my share of preds and masters but also see a mix of people with complete lack of game sense on the same team.

@hayhor This seems to be their current "answer" to matchmaking fairness. All teams seem to have one or two TTV-level players, then on down the line to people who can barely eke out 200 damage.It's one of the most ridiculous things I've seen, considering that the single high-rated player can literally wipe the entire lobby solo. It's common for one person to have 20+ kills and over 4k damage, while others only have 2-3.The worst is when there are smurfs involved as well, which tends to shift the match toward one team heavily (several yesterday were 45-to-9 level of bad, even when the other team was missing a few players).

It takes 50-60 games! Wow EA must really hate the players.The whole MM is stupid. It encourages you to play stupid. I think EA/Respawn dont understand that 99% of the player base does not get what the BR means.And they should treat it at such by KDR & average dmg being the only evaluative tool for MM in pubs. Its not the ALGS or ranked you know where you get some reward for positioning and you know playing battle royale. Lets say you accidentally drop somewhere quiet and the whole lobby does the typical with 5 teams left after first ring you are once again on the losing end with the matchmaking evaluating you wrong even if you get 0 dmg done for the whole of the match. Officially done for this season. Played a bunch of matches today without getting a single kill.Then got two accidental kills (Caustic gas canister was probably closest thing to the players when they were caught by the ring) and the way I see it that the MM sees it as the highpoint of my day and nothing good coming at me in the next matches.

Mixtape and BR share a Matchmaking Rating

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hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 I agree that mixtape affects the rest. What's weird tho is mixtape seems to be fairly random for me. To the point I tend to perform at a high level on almost every team I'm on in it. I see my share of preds and masters but also see a mix of people with complete lack of game sense on the same team.
LaughingSharko
3 years ago
@hayhor This seems to be their current "answer" to matchmaking fairness. All teams seem to have one or two TTV-level players, then on down the line to people who can barely eke out 200 damage.

It's one of the most ridiculous things I've seen, considering that the single high-rated player can literally wipe the entire lobby solo. It's common for one person to have 20+ kills and over 4k damage, while others only have 2-3.

The worst is when there are smurfs involved as well, which tends to shift the match toward one team heavily (several yesterday were 45-to-9 level of bad, even when the other team was missing a few players).
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@LaughingSharko Yeah I know what you mean. I genuinely don't get anything out of killing people that have little chance. And having been on the end of 8 deaths to one player, hearing the kill quip I totally understand why some people quit.
Axs5626Sxa5001
3 years ago
@hayhor

Arenas and past LTMs 100% did not impact BR matchmaking, so I find this really odd. What I don’t know yet is how the relationship works in reverse. Will doing poorly in mixtape over a set amount of matches grant you weaker BR lobbies?
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 I disagree past ltms and other modes did not affect BR matchmaking. The simplest way to see it having effect was if you won a game of arenas or an ltm you would be the champion and the lobby would be harder. That's my experience anyway.
Axs5626Sxa5001
3 years ago
@hayhor But I used my “No kills No Damage” account to play countless other modes, Arenas including. Performing really well made the the matchmaking kick in and lobbies were high MMR in those modes. But my BR opponents remained super super low (no divetrails, and mostly level 0-10, even as I myself was like level 60 from gaining exp in the other modes).

I ONLY started seeing all Masters and Preds on this 0 Kill 0 Damage account after doing really well in Mixtape.
hayhor
Hero
3 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 Interesting. I have no idea then.
Airish85
3 years ago
It takes 50-60 games! Wow EA must really hate the players.

The whole MM is stupid. It encourages you to play stupid.
I think EA/Respawn dont understand that 99% of the player base does not get what the BR means.
And they should treat it at such by KDR & average dmg being the only evaluative tool for MM in pubs.
Its not the ALGS or ranked you know where you get some reward for positioning and you know playing battle royale.
Lets say you accidentally drop somewhere quiet and the whole lobby does the typical with 5 teams left after first ring you are once again on the losing end with the matchmaking evaluating you wrong even if you get 0 dmg done for the whole of the match.
Officially done for this season. Played a bunch of matches today without getting a single kill.
Then got two accidental kills (Caustic gas canister was probably closest thing to the players when they were caught by the ring) and the way I see it that the MM sees it as the highpoint of my day and nothing good coming at me in the next matches.
Axs5626Sxa5001
3 years ago
@Airish85 To be fair and honest, it only takes 40-50 consecutive poor games on my MAIN ACCOUNT, to be dropped into lower MMR lobbies. This is the account that I’ve hit Masters and have—- (clutch your pearls) 38.9k game’s played.

The other accounts (specifically used for MM testing) take between 5-9 poor matches to be dropped into easier lobbies.
Airish85
3 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001Noted. But having 5-9 matches of total destruction might already be enough for a player to stop playing when the player is put on the wrong lobby to begin with. Its a good thing to know about the shared MM. I used to play some Arenas as a method of warmup before jumping in to BR. Did the same with Mixtape, which apparently was the mistake. Also Mixtape was somewhat method of getting some self confidence in between of getting destroyed in the BR but as you wrote if you plan on enjoying BR you should just keep dying on it and not even touch the mixtape because the MM will throw you a ridicolous match up where you will win even if you AFK through it.

After few days off I have to say I miss Apex but not that much. Grinding Fishing Planet and occasional Quake Champions against bots has been good for mental health 😃