NERF Lifeline and Horizon

@maximas1986 Same here, mine dropped even more. My best kd was in S4 with 1.60, then it was worse in S5 but i don't remember it, S6 1.40 and now it is below 1.10 lol. I really don't like this season.

I do not find horizon to be the slightest op. She is crazy easy to kill her ult is very easy to manage in 1 mag. Her Q sure its fast but it does not offer much but dead weight standing still like storm from X-Men. Even if her Q does respawn fast the only thing it would offer is temporary avoidance for the slight second she is hovering up. Even then I shoot her out of the air. 

Heck look at octane who timer for his Q is quite similar to horizons. His Q nearly allows him to stay stem up with massive regen rate in fact I hardly ever even have to heal on octane because of the regen rate, (Easily fixed) Just add a combat timer of his regen not being allowed to regen while in combat. 

Completely agree these to need a nerf badly

@MrMutedEveryone wants nerfs without trying to learn to counter them. Cause a lot of us know how to counter every legend. Ones who beg for nerfs typically don't or cant. You know how many changes have been made because Bad players cry they cant kill this or kill that. When us higher ups have zero problems killing any legend in this game. So instead of taking time to learn how to do it they instantly come complain about nerfs. 

LL is easily countered. Kill her first.... Kill anyone she has hit with a res thirst it. Both these methods completely make her passive utterly useless. 

Horizon easily countered. Shoot her ult with 1 mag swap to other wep kill her. Most horizon I've come across literally just stay still at the top of her Q. How can no one shoot her down? Even on the way up its quite slow to track with a weapon on their way up. 

Everything can be countered if learn to. 

Muted is a pathfinder that got his * nerfed to a no play character.  The horizon abilities are way over powered to point of pre path nerf she way to strong. And LL need a timer on that Rez. Stupid to keep fighting a green wall

Horizon needs nerf more then LL right now 15sec cool down on gravity lift that last 10 sec   She hits the ground and can pop it in 3 steps.  To much. And fact she can strife on top of thing is ridiculous. You wanna sit up there and shoot fine but you uncenter on that cone it should spit you out. 

Neither needs a nerf.

You want to nerf someone nerf Caustic or Gibby.