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4 years ago

News: Rank Demotion Is Not Happening

Before the actual developer response about the issue, a short context why he needed to even address it. ImperialHal said in a recent twitter thread that he feels that Rank Demotion should be placed...

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KelRiever

4 years ago

@r1ggedgame You cannot get to Diamond without any kills

You can't get to Platinum either.

Just for the record, and this is not on you, but people do things like system reward math in their heads and it has no bearing on reality. You're not going to get through Gold without kills in the real world, in the time frame of a season. It's actually impossible, I'd argue. And I don't know, if maybe one person wants to waste the time posting a legit YouTube video on how they did it, I will congratulate them on the complete waste of time...and complete uselessness as no one would want to replicate it...if they even could.

The bottom line is you might not need 5 kills a match, but you need to regularly kill people to raise your rank up inside a time frame that matters, BUT most importantly, you have to not play like a hot dropping *. That's different than not getting kills (I always like how there's no middle ground ever...you're either hot dropping or hiding, according to these forums :P)

Anyway, I don't really think you were saying that, but I want to just take the opportunity to regularly stab the myth of climbing rank by hiding. You're going to get out of Silver at best doing that, you won't be making it to Plat or Diamond.

I agree, getting carried can happen through gold. But that's a big act of generosity or a good friend there, and of course requires you to do what really Respawn wants, which is log with a full team. This is not a pug friendly game, so while you can call it getting carried, it also is technically team work. And the worse you are compared to your carrying pal, the longer it's going to take both of you. I'm okay with this level of suffering for people to do that. You don't need to remove rank protection, to be carried in this way is already awful enough for the people involved.

Respawn wants more people to play ranked, not less. And I do believe both more people play with ranked protection, and less would without. That's pretty much their argument, seems like, and a solid last nail in the coffin of the argument until someone wants to really try pitching how more people play ranked with no rank protection :P

r1ggedgame

Seasoned Ace

4 years ago

@KelRieveryou need to get 300 games with 16 points (4800 from b4 to p4) ,thats for 3rd or 4th and you can rat that easily in bronze silver and gold. you might no pull that every game but on some games you get 2nd with 36 points which makes up for an early loss and sometimes even 1st (i had 3 games won as a solo (team dead) without doing any dmg ).
So you might need around 450 games in 9 weeks (50 games per week, some ppl do that in a day) ... not too difficult of a taks imho. seems very possible to me depending on the char ... mirage comes to mind.
If the matchmaking is as some of the people here describe, you should not get the hardest lobbies since you didnt do dmg and kills at all , leaving you with a low hidden MMR.

KelRiever
4 years ago
450 games in 9 weeks is 50 games a week!
Do people not have day jobs?
Or if your day job is playing 50 games that week good on you. I mean congrats on your hiding Plat IV...which paid you nothing in 9 weeks but a stupid badge.
Priorities. If you're that person, seriously give them the Platinum IV. Maybe they should stay home. And if there are a 'lot' of people in that category, the problem isn't Respawn or Apex, it's a whole societal problem. You aren't going to fix THAT with a change to the scoring system!
Edited: for initial mistype but also uh, the point is really the same. And I want to add, I see a lot of people playing 50 games a week....but not spending it all hiding. Again, if you are devoting that much time to hiding, I seriously do not see you as a problem...at...all! That person should take up underwater basket weaving, for more excitement in their lives. That there are people doing this in droves is simply...I just do not see it.
- r1ggedgame
  Seasoned Ace
  4 years ago
  @KelRievermay i remind you that a lot of players are students/children ? They have quite a lot of time and the urge of climbing up ranks ...
  i just wanted to prove you wrong when you said it would not be possible.
  And i didnt say that ppl would do that in masses, but with such a big playerbase, there is at least one guy that might do it.
  - pandareno1999
    Hero+
    4 years ago
    I heard about a guy who proved a point recently by ranking up very high on Crypto without making any kills, or very very few with a bad KDR. A quick google search couldn't find it for me, I have to ask my friend for more details so I can post it.