next gen consoles giving an advantage?
Do the new consoles give players an advantage? I have noticed a change in the last few days, I have been getting smashed way more than normal. I know the frames are more consistent for them at 60 and...
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@aisthebestletter Must be a console thing to complain about hardware differences I guess. I play 60hz on PC, but don't really care if someone has 120hz or whatever. At the end of the day, it's me and my aim.
A current gen console player can have advantage over a next gen console player with good PC monitor that has lower response and higher pixel density instead of a TV or use better headset with amplifier to focus high end frequencies for footsteps. Current gen still runs Apex at 45-60FPS average but with lower resolution scaling for sure.
I don't think they'll make a "next gen" console standalone version of Apex. More like "patch" upgrades for resolution 4K and FPS unlock to 60-120Hz then call it "Next Gen Edition". But even at 1080P resolution the draw distance pixellation is still good enough to see and hit distance targets when your face is 20cm from monitor anyway. At best they'll bring resolution and FPS to PC level, so not ground breaking.
Apex is more CPU dependent and not a graphical intensive game at all. Don't think they're going to add special effects to annoy people in a competitive game i.e. RTX or more particle effects. PC people already edit their graphics settings low to miniimise visual distractions already.
They haven't even announced any "next gen" console patches for 4K and above 60FPS for Apex. It will just play as backwards compatible game as usual on new consoles.
I would advise anyone to not sell their previous console when they receive next gen one. Just because an older gen game is "backwards compatible" there are still possibility of game breaking bugs that prevent game progression as it won't be perfect emulation, so better to keep as backup for your library of games.This is more specially the case for PS rather than Xbox.
Also faster SSD will load maps faster, but you still have to wait for last player to load map to start at same time. So no real storage speed advantage here. It might be good for say ranked mode where you get disconnected and want to reconnect to existing lobby session though.
- @PeterN_UK nice review mate, but wouldn't the next-gen console take advantage of VRR with compatible tv to raise that FPS to 120?
so the console and the TV will be working together to keep it on steady FPS all the time
- @BaldWraithSimp It is... xD. Console gamers tend to want the same experience. We shell basically the same amount on the console so we want an even playing field. Except for the mid-gen console buyers. We don’t really care about them.
This is also the reason why I bet with @hayhor that there will not be a substantial performance boost on current gen as opposed to prev gen. Devs know that console players want basically the same experience xD. So unless they start going the pc route now all of a sudden, it’ll stay the same.
I really don’t care about all that tho cause even with same console one can have a different experience than the other. An og Xbox One hooked up to an oldschool 1080p television playing on normal xbox controller with crappy-moderate internet connection vs Xbox One X with latest 4K television (obviously with game mode) hooked up to Xbox Elite controller series 2 with added soundcard hooked up to fibre optic... who’ll win if they are evenly skilled... except in apex where the lesser internet has an advantage xD.
@PeterN_UK entirely true. Well said.
@maximas1985 You would think that but I think not. Just as I said before, ‘even playing field’. Who knows, I might get proven wrong but they’ve done it this way for most mp game since the beginning so I don’t think they’ll start soon. It would def be doable to get apex to run at 60-120 on next gen... either at 1080p, 1440 or 4K even without VRR or G-sync (LG TVs) but for now I don’t think they’ll do it xD.Ugh what is bugging me about next gen consoles is that with Cyberpunk I don't have a straight answer about save game files. I've hit CD Projekt's forum and twitter and nothing. People are asking but silence, not even a no or maybe from developers. I've even kept up to date with developers video updates too.
Can you take the saved game file and use it on dedicated next gen edition of Cyberpunk next year.
i.e.
- Xbox One X save file and use on Xbox One Series X
- PS4 save file and use on PS5
- Maybe as a bonus between next gen Xbox and PS even as cross save
Not on the backward compatible version but the dedicated next gen console edition when it releases next year.
- @PeterN_UK I would assume so as with Xbox you get smart delivery so your save file goes through the washer and gets spruced-up graphics & performance. With most games it’s at no additional cost... some games tho... (Looking at you EA) you need to pay.
@BaldWraithSimp if you’re old enough to think rationally, you have lived long enough to know life’s not fair... why should gaming be any different XD. But gamers... as the generalized public... are just too self conceited and criticize others who have better stuff and go against them xD.
LOLZ ‘Do you even gaming chair bro?!’ xD
- @Koochi-Q Exactly. There are two many variables, you won't ever have a fair matchmaking lol. If someone shells more money than you for an upgrade, he would deffo have better hardware. Next people will demand matchmaking based on 'gaming chairs' lol :D
