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3 years ago

No longer a place for regular players

I tried taking a break after my last remaining friends gave up on Apex due to terrible SBMM and cheating Smurf scum. I honestly thought a couple of weeks away would be enough to refresh me after over 3 years of this situation worsening, along with a new game mode to try….. I was wrong, this game is not a place for your average player anymore. It’s always been iffy on the SBMM but now it feels completely busted, every match is filled with diamonds/masters and preds, these people are so far above my skill lvl it’s completely pointless playing. The new mode is definitely enjoyable but sadly it took a very short period of time before the lobbies started filling with the same lvl of players from BR. It’s no fun being constantly killed by someone crouch spam jumping everywhere whilst hitting nearly every shot. I love Apex but I’m done until I get confirmation that Respawn have improved both SBMM and Smurfing, with a player base as large as Apex they should be able to find me a decent 60 player matchup far more often than the current not at all! I know we live in a different generation of gaming, everybody sweating to become the next big streamer etc, but it really shouldn’t be this bad, just feels like a lack of giving a damn on Respawns part. So on that note I have to stop playing and spending as it’s the only thing that ultimately gets any attention from the likes of developers and EA. Good luck to the people still getting enjoyment from the game whilst playing on genuine accounts, no ill feelings.

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35 Replies

KelRiever
3 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 To make it simple, people will play a game if it is fun, even if they lose a lot.
Nobody wants to lose every time, but there are plenty of games in game history where people lose a whole ton, but keep on playing because they had a good time. Apex Legends is for sure not one of those games to have such a retention, not in BR anyway.
The illusion of BR, though, is that you did something even if you didn't win. Which is okay if you like place 10th or better every now and then. It's the ranked system which shows just how flawed that can be, though, where if you don't place top 5 every game, you aren't going far.
So, I can point that obvious point about a game being fun to every dev in existence. But in the end, if it's a Respawn dev, they don't know where their money is coming from, ignore me or anyone who is not a pro, and listen to the pro players...which is about as knuckleheaded a thing you can do since all those people are the super low minority who win a lot, and would have fun with this game no matter how bad it got, as long as they could have a day job doing it. Hit that viewership in the junk and you'll find out how fast your pros leave. Hint: Overwatch.
swift07
3 years ago
@r1ggedgame yeah, I'm totally with you on your points and share the same sentiment. I really love the game and would like to see them address these issues by making changes, but I really don't have much faith because these issues, like MM, have been issues for a long time...and it hasn't changed. I'm at a point where, if another game similar to Apex and Warzone come out that doesn't have MM, cheating or audio issues, I would switch over. If Warzone 2 improved the situation with cheaters, I might switch back. I really had no issues with their MM. Although, I've really grown to like Apex, because of MM, audio and smurfing, I've been losing interest.
swift07
3 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 If people were so good at the game and they were dominating, why wouldn't they just keep playing and start streaming? This day and age, people make money being good at games lol. Now...if people were losing and they were losing because the system grouped them up with drastically lower skilled teammates over and over and they kept dying early in the game, that can be real frustrating. They really need to do something about their MM system. Otherwise, they are going to lose a lot of players.
I've played Fornite for over 3 years consistently and then Warzone for 2 years, they were both SBMM and I have a pretty good amount of wins on both. That didn't make me less interested in playing either. I've been playing Apex for 5 months (besides playing the first few seasons), and I'm genuinely seeing their MM system as being an issue.
reconzero
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@KelRiever

Hands down, one of the most perfect descriptions I've ever read explaining the fatal flaw with team-based games (ranked or otherwise, but yes, especially ranked).
Kyldenar
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Axs5626Sxa5001 wrote:
The devs themselves said they don’t want players winning too much or losing too much.
So, winning all of 3 matches, total, this season, is somehow not "winning too much or losing too much?"