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- 7 years ago
1 per 1000 is a number you literally based on nothing at all.
Next to Xim, there are a ton of other options to play mouse on console, particularly on ps4.
No actualy figures exist as to how many mouse cheaters there are, but my observation is that it's 50% on my server past 10 PM (Amsterdam Server on EU)
- 7 years ago
@Wingmannedbro wrote:1 per 1000 is a number you literally based on nothing at all.
Next to Xim, there are a ton of other options to play mouse on console, particularly on ps4.
No actualy figures exist as to how many mouse cheaters there are, but my observation is that it's 50% on my server past 10 PM (Amsterdam Server on EU)
Actual figures do exist, please check out the Xim forums. I'd post a direct link but it's against forums rules. Head there and search Apex Legends under General Discussions, OBiV (owner and developer) states the numbers in a couple different threads.You're assuming every Xim owner in the world is ONLY playing Apex, which is incorrect.
Regardless of numbers, the Xim doesn't violate Sony and Xbox's ToS because it simply emulates and does not any additional control/recoil/sensitivity/stats. Xim, Xim4, Apex has been around for years and years and is not going anywhere.
- 7 years ago
@Paneross wrote:You're assuming every Xim owner in the world is ONLY playing Apex, which is incorrect.
I have yet to see any number on how the population is split between the consoles and PC, so one could argue that you are assuming every player plays on PS 4.
I find it strange that this is even a thing. Theres no way you don't get input lag and wonky * happening with this. Why not just get a pc at that point or are people that desperate to be a big fish in a small pond?
- 7 years ago
@Wingmannedbro wrote:1 per 1000 is a number you literally based on nothing at all.
Next to Xim, there are a ton of other options to play mouse on console, particularly on ps4.
No actualy figures exist as to how many mouse cheaters there are, but my observation is that it's 50% on my server past 10 PM (Amsterdam Server on EU)
You are completely delusional if you really believe it's anywhere near 50 percent. Do you realise what the value of a company like XIM would be if they had sold 50 percent as many 150-200 dollar adapters as Sony sold consoles? The owners would have sold by now, it would be a public company on the stock market, and it would be worth tens of millions of dollars. Do you really think Sony and Microsoft are just ignoring a hugely booming peripherial market like that? Hell, Sony/Microsoft dumped millions into that useless camera crap nobody ever bought.
If it's 1000:1 they would be lucky. The simple fact is the majority of console owners are A. Not people coming from PC (usually goes other way) B. Not people that want to play at a desk in a PC chair.
Simply put, the majority of console players have started off with and learned controller play for better or worse. There simply is not a huge calling for M&K.
Taking a wild stab here, you were coming from Battlefield or COD when you started playing Apex? And now you can't figure out why you went from winning 70+ percent of the time and being at the top of the board to getting whipped?
I had the same experience, and was honestly wondering for awhile about xim users myself. But in short order I realised it was me, I needed to change my play style completely vs all the other FPS I have played.
It's not them, it's you.
- 7 years ago
So It made it very very clear that I am referring to a specific server, on a specific game, in specific time brackets (at night)
@BA2VGT wrote:
@Wingmannedbro wrote:1 per 1000 is a number you literally based on nothing at all.
Next to Xim, there are a ton of other options to play mouse on console, particularly on ps4.
No actualy figures exist as to how many mouse cheaters there are, but my observation is that it's 50% on my server past 10 PM (Amsterdam Server on EU)
You are completely delusional if you really believe it's anywhere near 50 percent. Do you realise what the value of a company like XIM would be if they had sold 50 percent as many 150-200 dollar adapters as Sony sold consoles? The owners would have sold by now, it would be a public company on the stock market, and it would be worth tens of millions of dollars. Do you really think Sony and Microsoft are just ignoring a hugely booming peripherial market like that? Hell, Sony/Microsoft dumped millions into that useless camera crap nobody ever bought.
If it's 1000:1 they would be lucky. The simple fact is the majority of console owners are A. Not people coming from PC (usually goes other way) B. Not people that want to play at a desk in a PC chair.
Simply put, the majority of console players have started off with and learned controller play for better or worse. There simply is not a huge calling for M&K.
Taking a wild stab here, you were coming from Battlefield or COD when you started playing Apex? And now you can't figure out why you went from winning 70+ percent of the time and being at the top of the board to getting whipped?
I had the same experience, and was honestly wondering for awhile about xim users myself. But in short order I realised it was me, I needed to change my play style completely vs all the other FPS I have played.
It's not them, it's you.
Somehow, you call me delusional, while caught in the delusion that I claimed that half of all console owners own a Xim or any of it's competitors.
Ill say it again, on my server, in the game Apex Legends during the night, about half of players are mouse users.
This is going to be roughly, 100 players or so.
Somehow you made this huge rant, acting like your IQ is 5000 and you're a finance wizard, based on the most ridiculous misinterpretation i've ever seen.
Im a competitive gamer, I play at night, I am talking about at 3 and 4 AM.
Very few people play during those hours, so almost all run of the mill console owners are sleeping. All the teenagers are sleeping etc.
Everyone playing during those hours are tryhards and cheaters.
This is why the % of mouse users I witness is very high.
But I dont even know why I am bothering to explain this to you, since that information was included in my original post anyway.
Clearly, you have a problem with reading, and processing what you read. Since all those things bounced off your thick skull the first time, and you went full delusional on me with wild misinterpretations that I argued that half of console owners are Xim users.
- 7 years ago
@Wingmannedbro wrote:1 per 1000 is a number you literally based on nothing at all.
Next to Xim, there are a ton of other options to play mouse on console, particularly on ps4.
No actualy figures exist as to how many mouse cheaters there are, but my observation is that it's 50% on my server past 10 PM (Amsterdam Server on EU)
Really? Every other person is using M&K on console, that's weird because I play with around 12 people that I personally know not one of them uses Xim. Your 50% assumption has already been broken.
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