Perfect Teammate Match & Finding System
I have 1500+ hours of game time. I usually go up to the Diamond level. But now I stopped playing. Because now whenever I want to play, my teammates given to me by the system are low level. While my t...
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@Asmodeus566I know as much as you can't play with Silver or actually below platinum players at least in BR mode as soon as you hit Diamond (the only thing that makes me do it as I rather play vs Pred/Masters than with Silvers and Gold).
Also, your argument about 2.5% should not be valid if the provided stats by the official sources are correct (I have a feeling that someone is boosting their yearly results to gain profits) - 100 million of players 2.5% = 2.5 million, evenly distributed around the world's 24 timezones and Apex's 48 servers that still leaves = 2.5 mil / (24*48) = ~2000 players pers timezone per server. Go deeper into daily routines and say 1/3 plays during the day / midday evening / night and you still should get 500-600 active players = 10 full lobbies at any time any place basically. Clearly that is not the case so something be it stats or SBMM is incorrect here 🙂
Also let's not forget that Platinum players are like ~20-30% of the player base so above mentioned numbers should be so much more boosted given that Diamonds should be able to get into Plat lobbies if there is a shortage of players.
I would appreciate it if you could specify the URL of the official sources you mentioned.
I guess I didn't explain the main part of the question. Only my teammates are low level (low rank low K/D etc.). Not enemies. (my enemies are strong opponents that always suit me.)
This problem is not just for me. Many players are facing this issue.
First of all, thanks. I tried what you wrote.
Sorry, I searched but couldn't find any official source.
@l_mRGogo https://twitter.com/PlayApex?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1382378457808699396%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dexerto.com%2Fapex-legends%2Fapex-legends-player-count-1525295%2F https://steamcharts.com/app/1172470#All
these two sources popped out to me as something close to or the official source, there might be more.
- @l_mRGogo There is quite a easy solution and fix for this concern. Play with friends. If you are in ranked and you are not playing with a pre made then you get what comes to you in terms of good or bad teammates. To avoid bad teammates you simply play with 2 others. The game is now going on 3 years old there just is no way people in this time frame have not made friends with people to play with.
I often see people blame their randoms for stuff when in reality they put themselves in that situation to start with by solo queueing then want to blame the game. Easy ways to avoid it are ignored. Ranked is the most important game mode in the game when it comes to team gameplay coordination and strategies. So going in solo you will not have a great experience that will ever meet your expectations. @E9ine_AC
You are not an EA employee and acknowledge that the SBMM system is not working properly. If you think the topic is correct, I expect your support, not your advice.- @l_mRGogo I deal with SBMM more than a lot of people. I understand how it works with 5k+ hours into apex it self. I live on this game and when i do not like how sbmm is working for me i invite people. I do not blame the game i blame myself for solo queueing. I have went to pred solo queue imagine the torture with that. It was rough but i put myself through that horror.
@E9ine_AC
Thanks for saying SBMM is bad and supporting the issue. What you choose to do is irrelevant.
Finding your own solution to a faulty system by playing not solo or not use SBMM system shows EA's inability.- from most recent EA ranked blogs, diamond players in BR are like 6 %. Bear in mind that they stopped doing the rank distribution chart since last season if I remember correctly. So this data is from season 7-8. Just search 'apex ranked season 8/9' and there should be a link to official EA site
Great answer and a great solution to the problem in lieu of any other changes that I will not hold my breath waiting for.
@BaldWraithSimp I couldn't find it after a short search. If you find it, I would like you to share it.
- @l_mRGogo I mean its a highly dependent game on team game play. You will not get that with solo queueing. So I can say SBMM is rough but can it be better just by player actions? Yes. They simply invite people and never worry about being given under ranked players or players of lesser skill levels. Its not so much the games fault. If anything its a 50/50 issue. On one hand sbmm can not be altered by us. On the other hand we can avoid bad sbmm match ups by inviting people and never worrying about it.
@Asmodeus566
😃 😃 😃 😃 LOL 😃 😃 😃
like this You buy a car, it has automatic windows. However, it doesn't work. The solution is open the door.
It may have been a bad example. But I tried to give an example of absurd solutions.
If you want to avoid the problem completely, you can not play at all.🙌Anyway, back to the topic, thanks for supporting the SBMM not working properly. So how would SBMM be better? How would you like it to be?
- @l_mRGogo Let's be honest here no matter what changes could be made there would still be upset players saying its broken. It is a system I would not want to touch personally because it will never be right by the majority of the solo queue population. I say this as someone who solo queues a bit. It would be a hard job I feel personally.
@BaldWraithSimp
You said "from most recent EA ranked blogs, diamond players in BR are like 6 %. Bear in mind that they stopped doing the rank distribution chart since last season if I remember correctly."I didn't see anything like that in your url. I may have a mistake.
Naw driving with the door open is bad. just break the window. 🙂
On the other hand I play Arenas mostly solo. it can be not so fun due to MM and as others have mentioned it could all be mostly player base driven for this mode, times of day etc. So for a quick fix teaming up would fix half the problem. Not a long term solution though.
For Pubs and Ranked trios playing with friends is a viable solution. I play with both friends and solo que. when I play with friends we have hard but good matches. when I solo que it is either feast or famine but rarely that balanced good game. Since the game is created as a team based game maybe playing solo que is not the best for everyone so maybe find that one to two friends acquaintances and play with them in order to alleviate the bad teammate aspect of the game.
- @l_mRGogo "GOAL 1: Create a true measure of skill in Apex Legends
As of 4/22/2021 we have the following distribution among players in Split 2 who have played more than 5 hours of Ranked (see Season 7 comparables in parentheses)
17.87% Bronze (16.35%)
17.86% Silver (23.86%)
31.84% Gold (32.09%)
26.16% Platinum (23.13%)
5.86% Diamond (4.37%)
0.4% Master & Predator (0.20%)"
https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/amp/news/legacy-ranked#:~:text=GOAL%201%3A%20Create,Master%20%26%20Predator%20(0.20%25)
We are not asking about the hard or the easy part. We say SBMM is not working properly. You say that it won't get better anyway, let's not touch it. It's like saying something, we're going to die one day so let's not live.@Asmodeus566
Thanks for the advice. But I'm not looking for advice. There is a problem, I am expressing it and I am waiting for support. It's funny to act like it's okay.- @l_mRGogo No I pretty much gave up because if the answer does not match yours then it is wrong. I personally in ranked solo get some cracked players who eventually end up on the friends list to play with. Other games i get not so great players its the roll of the dice. Every friend i have on my friends list i met as a random. We either played well together or one of us rolled the other one and was impressed. So if sbmm is upsetting me i got a load of people i can invite to never even worry about it. This is the concept that has not had an answer given for it yet. How can you avoid the sbmm issues that you say are there? Is there no way to avoid it? Or is there ways to never have to worry about it? Thats the question being avoided.
I support your cause to have the SBMM improved. My suggestions have been posted in the thread.
Advice will always be given to go with suggestions.
It's not the first sbmm post and it won't be the last, I have seen posts come and go. What you should care about is yourself, is it worth making posts over and over for a morsel of hope? It's been almost 3 years, Solo-queue will always be like that in this game or any other multiplayer game. Nothing will change that.
As for my experience, I have about 2000 hrs plus in Solo-queue which is majority of my playtime.
I'm genuinely curious if there's a single game where the MM is almost flawless or does its job incredibly. I've played some of the biggest MP games out there like DOTA and Overwatch where there are also MM problems. In my opinion, it can be improved but having bad teammates is unavoidable. It's just that people have different game styles. Some people in the forums suggested to have "Playstyle preference" when being matched which won't go well since you can be sweaty at the beginning then just hold out a single spot during the late rounds of the game. Matchmaking will always be a complicated topic.
edit: I was playing Fall Guys the other day and people were doing tricks that I didn't know were even possible. I guess the MM isn't perfect in this game as well. Still a fun casual game though. Bought it on switch too.
- @Cheese9Man That's really the hard part tho. There is no simple solution to this. Game makers have all of the data that shows how they can keep people playing their game and spending. It seems they've all decided full random MM doesn't work anymore. Apex keeps growing so they must be doing something right.
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