Perfect Teammate Match & Finding System
I have 1500+ hours of game time. I usually go up to the Diamond level. But now I stopped playing. Because now whenever I want to play, my teammates given to me by the system are low level. While my t...
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as long as you can queue up as a duo the duo will allways drag you down they refuses to work as a team and they run away in middel of fight without tell you anything if they removed duo queue from ranked the game would be alot better.
At the end of the day it's all about networking - if you aren't willing to put in some work finding the right match, you're gonna have a bad time
- @TTZ_Dipsy people realize this after spending quite a bit of time in Apex and especially when they get to Diamond lobbies.
Yet I would question if that should be the case if SBMM would work as intended = team up similarly skilled players and being able to distinguish between ones that have a boosted rank (in any possible way) yet bad at winning, teamworking and ones that do belong or even exceed a particular rank.
Currently this thread and other similar ones just show that in Apex chaos is the leading factor as:
- people boost their accounts via hacks or asking more skilled players to play in their name
- people keep smurffing and it is still out of control
- SBMM seems more random than systematic
- it is pretty much official news that on higher ranks Diamond players being lowest rank are "fed" into Master/Pred lobbies to decrease their waiting time
and the list goes on.
Basically, you have to play X months, realize that you are screwed and then hope for the best by finding a set squad and see in how "bad" = higher-ranked lobbies game will put you given you have now a set squad instead of random teammates...yes their are a lot of problems as you noted in your last post. But we can not mix some of the issues up with each other especially when we are talking about Diamond level players.
Playing ranked:
1. If you are playing ranked Smurf accounts should be no problem as they probably have not ranked up to diamond to be a problem yet.
2. Boosted accounts via hacks, until they can get rid of all hackers (will not happen) we will have to learn to deal with it and report when seen.
3. Boosted via other people playing accounts well that is just sad. I do not see a fix for that so again we just have to deal with it.
4. Diamonds being fed to Masters and Preds. I really do not think this is happening. There are only 750 Preds out there globally. They have to play with someone. As I said before Diamond and up make up about 2.5% of the player base (I have seen mentioned in this thread 5%) that is not a lot of players as has been discussed.
5. Finding other players of like caliber to play with will be hard, but if you look at the top tier players Diamond and up most of them have set people they play with and I really do not see a disadvantage at high rank with 3 stacking as this would you on par with other 3 stacks instead of being disadvantaged with playing with Randoms.
Playing Pubs:
1. Smurfs become a problem for high ranked players and low ranked players alike.
2. Hackers I said it above. Same thing.
3. Boosted via other people playing accounts remains sad and probably unfixable.
4. Solo Diamonds and above become the sharks here as they will be making up roughly 10-15% of the Lobby.
5. Paying solo in pubs will probably get you saddled with lower level players for team/ lobby balance. So finding other players to play with at your rank/skill will eliminate the randomness of your teammates, and increase the level of your enemies to a certain degree. Again we still are looking at a low percentage of players at that rank or higher and that will impact the Lobby. Three stacking in Pubs at that level of skill with "friends" sets you up to shred the lobby. Those 20 bombs and 4K damage badges do not happen in Diamond level lobbies much no do they.
In general playing with "friends" three stacked is a better experience. Players at the highest levels get there by doing this and stay there by doing this.
If you do not have friends that can play at this level with you it can be frustrating. Keep your head up and keep an eye out for the random that seems like a good player and invite to squad up with you. If it dose not work out then so be it if it does add to that friend list and so how long it lasts. I have a couple of players like that since season 4 on my list to play with when they are there for when my 2 best friend cant make it or I am tired of solo queuing.
There is no perfect Teammate Match & Finding System except for the one you create for yourself. Finding those other players will take some time but is worth it when you find them.
By the way thank you for starting this thread it has been very refreshing.
@Asmodeus566 will skip commenting on pubs - don't play them and don't care what is happing there as pubs or alike mode games always have been total chaos/trash games where people just go to waste their time most of the time.
As for ranked comments.
1. If you are playing ranked Smurf accounts should be no problem as they probably have not ranked up to diamond to be a problem yet. - Smurfs are problem for first of all lower ranked players as the basis of the smurffers is to get easier matchups = Master level player playing against Platinum is like walk in the park that pisses off all other people in that park. And to be honest it is somewhat frustrating to see a player level 50 deleting me in Diamond lobbies while being also Diamond 4...go figure if he is hacking, smurfing or both or just super skilled and transferred from another game.
2. Boosted accounts via hacks, until they can get rid of all hackers (will not happen) we will have to learn to deal with it and report when seen. - If you believe that Respwan reporting system works I guess you can also state that Easter bunny and Santa Claus are real :D Solution here would be to remove rank protection as many hackers who are not only braindead but also lazy hack to a certain point Diamond/Master and stop using hacks as they got the badge and the trail so why risk getting banned = they remain in D4 or 10k Master till the end of the split/season. Removing rank protection would force them to either keep using hacks and increasing chance of being caught (if the system actually works) or just stop playing that in turn would remove part of hackers from lobbies = win/win for the community that are legit.
3. Boosted via other people playing accounts well that is just sad. I do not see a fix for that so again we just have to deal with it. Same as above.
4. Diamonds being fed to Masters and Preds. I really do not think this is happening. There are only 750 Preds out there globally. They have to play with someone. As I said before Diamond and up make up about 2.5% of the player base (I have seen mentioned in this thread 5%) that is not a lot of players as has been discussed. I don't see how 750 people or even a couple thousand could/should dictate rules for millions aka sounds like "u" problem 🙂 Let them wait and suffer as being Pred shouldn't be easy 🙂 Now it seems more like the system is tailored "top down" aka rich get richer aka people on the bottom suffer the most.
5. Finding other players of like caliber to play with will be hard, but if you look at the top tier players Diamond and up most of them have set people they play with and I really do not see a disadvantage at high rank with 3 stacking as this would you on par with other 3 stacks instead of being disadvantaged with playing with Randoms. That's my point - I agree that 3 stack is a huge boost in ranks, especially Diamond level and higher, yet it goes against the logic of skill-based BR game and ideal SBMM t.i. "getting a set team" should not be a decisive factor in the game.
In case of Apex I would almost want the game to treat set parties as "+ X ranks/levels" teams e.g. a set diamond 4 party should play only vs set diamond 4 parties or diamond 2 and higher random party players going as far as set predator party should be only in a lobby where all squads are set predators or at worst set master squads only.
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